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bestbudzs24

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weird drilling?
« on: March 02, 2009, 02:01:41 PM »
i just got a new cobalt bomb pearl. went to drop it off to have drilled the other day. the owner of the shop was out so i told the guy tell jim i want this ball to go real long and snap hard on the backend he said ok and i left it at that. well just picked the ball up today and i have never had a drilling like this before. i am lefty and the pin is over the middle finger. i was checking the lane #1 drill sheet and there is really not a drilling like this one on the sheet.i havent thrown it yet but was wondering what some of you think.i have a ton of bowling balls and all of them are either pin next to ring finger,pin up and to the left of the ring finger or pin in the ring finger.another one of my concerns is i had a redzone drilled by someone other than my normal driller with the pin over the bridge and it clipped the thumb hole.this guy has been drilling 95% of my eqipment since i was a kid and he has always been spot on with the drillings.just wanted to see what some of you think thanks in advance for all your help. it looks like this
ball specs are 16 lb. 2-3 inch pin 3.7 oz. top weight. no weight hole

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Re: weird drilling?
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2009, 10:10:19 PM »
if you ain't thrown it then how the hell do you know squat ?
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Re: weird drilling?
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 10:19:19 PM »
you have to throw it to know what you are really dealing with. Just because you haven't had a layout like that before doesn't mean it isn't going to do what you asked him to drill it for
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Re: weird drilling?
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2009, 10:23:02 PM »
for your information i have rolled it, and if used correctley it wroks just fine
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bestbudzs24

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Re: weird drilling?
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2009, 10:26:05 PM »
i know i have to throw it and i wasnt really questioning the drilling so much as to that it just was weird cause i have had probably 100 bowling balls or more and havent seen a drilling like this on any of my stuff. i guess i am just more curious than anything
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Re: weird drilling?
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2009, 10:43:09 PM »
look at lane 1 drill sheet again, it is classified as a "pro pin" drilling, on a farily normal pap this type drilling works out to a pin to pap of roughly 6"  

my personal opinion is it will be very long but it will lay off on the back end unless you have a ton of revs
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Re: weird drilling?
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2009, 10:50:14 PM »
oh yeah its all the balls fault

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Re: weird drilling?
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2009, 01:19:01 PM »
Typically the longer the pin to PAP distance the more it will increase length. Without knowing your PAP it is hard to say.

Mike Fagan's pins end up past the middle finger for longer pin to PAP layouts..

It all depends on your PAP.

Make sure there are equal parts finder and side after drilling and that will help..

The strength of the Cobalt core should allow the ball to flare away from the grip rather quickly as long as the pin doesn't land too close to 6.74" from PAP mark.

Hope this helps a little.
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Re: weird drilling?
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2009, 01:39:34 PM »
1) Drill sheets are very, very generic.  Just because a layout isn't listed on the three or four suggested drillings on a manufacturer drill sheet doesn't mean it won't work.  And in my opiniont, those suggested layouts actually are so generic that they aren't very useful for most experienced bowlers really.

2) The placement of the pin in relation to the fingerholes means nothing.  What's important is the placement of the pin in relation to your PAP, the axis point that the ball rotates around.  This determines how the core is actually positioned in the ball for the way you roll the ball.  Someone else could throw this same ball and get totally different results.

3) This layout isn't all that uncommon.  You quite often see the pros on TV throwing equipment with the pin over the middle finger when the heads are drier.

4) Depending on your PAP, this layout could range from a medium flaring, moderate lenght layout(if your PAP is less than 4 inches across from grip center) to a low flaring, length-then-snap layout (if your PAP is over 5 inches from grip center).

Don't worry about how it looks, worry about how it reacts.  If you have a fairly standard PAP (in the 4" to 5.5" range), this ball will "go real long and snap hard on the backend."

bestbudzs24

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Re: weird drilling?
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2009, 09:41:18 PM »
thanks guys for all the info. threw it today and this ball goes so long then all of a sudden it looks like it gets kicked right. this ball is definetly stronger than i anticipated. i thought this ball would be a little weaker than my uranium pearl but its actually about 4 to 6 boards stronger.  (not a bad thing though). the light hit carry is amazing pins fly everywhere. does anyone know what coverstock is on this ball? thanks again guys for all your help
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Re: weird drilling?
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2009, 08:28:57 AM »
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