Post by: 302efi on June 12, 2006, 01:59:36 AM
The ball is drilled up and righ of ring, cg stacked. My stats are: 425rpm, cranker with PAP of 5 1/4 over and 1 up.
The ball has a flare reducing hole inside my PAP as well. Ive heard that the super high flaring bomb cores sometimes don't work stacked.
I have no problems tossing the ball, its not catching ect...
Any ideas?
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Post by: getuaload on June 12, 2006, 10:11:58 AM
I really dont know why other then too much flare, mine flared about 7-8 inches.
Edited on 6/12/2006 10:09 AM
Post by: 302efi on June 12, 2006, 10:51:07 AM
I also have a Dirty Bomb & a HDB and they both roll good for me. I did have 2 Cherry Bomb Pearl and they both did something similar to this if I can remember. Oh well I guess thats one of down falls about being about to turn the ball
One thing that I don't under stand is how can Rudy throw the SCB in the videos and get a good roll on it ? I would think he would have this problem too ?
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Post by: getuaload on June 12, 2006, 11:19:49 AM
I sent them a email before about this and they couldnt come up with a answer for me.
I was also the one who named the Tsunami and didnt get credit for it. But i guess that is the way they roll..
You may also try to contact Mike Savio, I think i spelled it right.
He goes by BuzzsawMike on here.
Post by: GTX on June 13, 2006, 06:20:37 PM
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Ive heard that the super high flaring bomb cores sometimes don't work stacked
that's not true, I have all my bombs drilled stacked and it works the best for me with them ...
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Post by: Retroman on June 13, 2006, 08:52:34 PM
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Ive heard that the super high flaring bomb cores sometimes don't work stacked
that's not true, I have all my bombs drilled stacked and it works the best for me with them ...
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Your ball driller really needs to know your axis and tilt when drilling high flaring cores so not to flare over fingers and thumb or weight holes
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Post by: MegaMav on June 13, 2006, 09:00:05 PM
probably 1 ball driller out of 100 will actually go to the lengths of estimating that information.
Post by: 302efi on June 13, 2006, 09:01:01 PM
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Ive heard that the super high flaring bomb cores sometimes don't work stacked
that's not true, I have all my bombs drilled stacked and it works the best for me with them ...
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GTX, I never said that..I said "sometimes" in my origianl post...You just edited it out in the qoute
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Post by: J_Mac on June 13, 2006, 09:21:38 PM
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is there a tool for that?
probably 1 ball driller out of 100 will actually go to the lengths of estimating that information.
It's usually found by measuring initial track diameter I believe... You'd use a quarter scale to do it.
As for the unusual flare.... My one comment is, why drill a ball stacked if you are a cranker??? You don't need any help getting a ball to flare... Especially one with as much differential as a BCB.
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Post by: novawagonmaster on June 13, 2006, 09:26:09 PM
My Black Cherry Bomb is drilled Label Leverage (1:30) and I love it. That sucker flares like mad! This was one of my favorite THS balls towards the end of the winter season.
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Post by: J_Mac on June 13, 2006, 09:29:51 PM
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTIyODA4NDZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg
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Post by: Retroman on June 13, 2006, 09:31:11 PM
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is there a tool for that?
probably 1 ball driller out of 100 will actually go to the lengths of estimating that information.
spin it up on a determinator you will know how agressive the core is and to drill it with less flare
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Post by: MegaMav on June 13, 2006, 09:40:16 PM
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spin it up on a determinator you will know how agressive the core is and to drill it with less flare
i thought the determinator was just for mass bias purposes.
Post by: J_Mac on June 13, 2006, 09:41:46 PM
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spin it up on a determinator you will know how agressive the core is and to drill it with less flare
i thought the determinator was just for mass bias purposes.
As far as I know that is all it is for... but with holes in it, a BCB it might become a little asymmetric.
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Post by: MegaMav on June 13, 2006, 09:48:03 PM
ill never understand it.
Post by: Retroman on June 13, 2006, 09:51:27 PM
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Post by: J_Mac on June 13, 2006, 09:53:04 PM
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drilling a max flare layout with a huge flare ball is just asking for trouble.
ill never understand it.
He didn't say it was stacked leverage... but your comment still has some validity to it.
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Post by: Retroman on June 13, 2006, 09:53:34 PM
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drilling a max flare layout with a huge flare ball is just asking for trouble.
ill never understand it.
Yes, Mav, drilling a high flaring layout on a agressive core ball is very unnecessary, Drill a ball maxed out is not always the answer
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Post by: 302efi on June 13, 2006, 10:25:33 PM
As for the flare, for me on the BCB, it goes all the way around the ball back over the x-hole and through the middle as well, LOL !
I got the ball with it being on its second drill, so I don't plan on redrilling it...it was more of an impulse buy
...but for the record, both my HDB and pearl DB is stacked and they roll great !
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Post by: Retroman on June 14, 2006, 08:24:15 AM
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Ok guys I didnt have the ball drilled I bought it used like this. So I figured I would try it as is. You would think the flare reducing hole would do something...
As for the flare, for me on the BCB, it goes all the way around the ball back over the x-hole and through the middle as well, LOL !
I got the ball with it being on its second drill, so I don't plan on redrilling it...it was more of an impulse buy
...but for the record, both my HDB and pearl DB is stacked and they roll great !
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302, Keep in mind that the HDB and the DB do not have the same core as the BCB, The HDB and the DB have the single mini diamond in the middle and the BCB have 2 mini stacked diamonds which will make the BCB a higher flaring ball.
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Post by: GTX on June 14, 2006, 08:08:19 PM
I just meant to show what you heard is not really true for everyone. I know it might flare like you said with some people
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next time I go to the proshop, I will ask my driller for it
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