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Equipment Boards => Lane #1 => Topic started by: lane1lover on February 08, 2004, 12:01:48 PM

Title: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: lane1lover on February 08, 2004, 12:01:48 PM

I see many many posts that complained the core of lane 1 ball is useless, I have total 3 lane1 ball, CB, GN, and XXL, all I can see is the core is so sure let the ball keep rolling and never say died, so I believe lane 1 is so smart to get patent their core. can you all share your opinions on the lane 1 ball with me ? in fact, I still believe the bowler will kill the lane 1 ball if throwing bad, but if you deliver your ball good, the lane 1 ball will never let you down.

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: DonSVO on February 09, 2004, 09:38:27 AM

he's asking what the real difference is between Lane #1 and other companies. share why you think your Lane #1 is superior. is it the core technology? is it the hit? the controlability?

hope this helps.
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i don't care who makes it, how much it costs, or how sexy the ball looks. does it carry the 7 and level the deck? did i just beat you? aren't i clearing the heads with my $60 ball?

bring on the Lefty uprising!

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: DonSVO on February 09, 2004, 10:30:32 AM

well, here's my experience.

for wet lanes, i would pull out the V2, hit the lane 2 times and if nescessary, adjust the coverstock with the pad. after my $60 BCB, the V2 sees maybe the last game of a 3 game set. i paid $175 for the V2 strong...
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i don't care who makes it, how much it costs, or how sexy the ball looks. does it carry the 7 and level the deck? did i just beat you? aren't i clearing the heads with my $60 ball?

bring on the Lefty uprising!

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: JOE FALCO on February 09, 2004, 10:38:05 AM

I have Lane 1 balls .. it APPEARS TO ME that the balls are good on SPECIFIC LANE CONDITIONS .. like most other balls if you go OUTSIDE OF THOSE CONDITIONS you have to put the ball away! When you get LANE 1 balls on their CONDITIONS .. are they the BEST BALL FOR THAT CONDITION .. not for EVERY BODY! I thought the GN was great for MED (maybe HVY) oil .. then I bought the APOCALYPSE .. now my GN is playing SECOND FIDDLE! The LANE 1 balls are OK if you have MONEY TO BURN .. if you don't there are EXCELLENT ALTERNATIVES.

NOTE: The poster asked us to share our opinions on LANE 1 balls .. I DID!


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Hit them light and watch them fight
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Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: Brickguy221 on February 09, 2004, 11:07:45 AM

Jabroni, you're right, we never saw that one coming. Seriously now, thanks a bunch from myself as well I'm sure many others for not "stiring the pot." When you say things like this, you have my respect for you.

I am just like IEQ in that I don't think Lane 1 balls are any better than other high end balls....for what ever reason they just seem to work better for me on the local conditions I bowl on.

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Don't wear your self out cutting wood with an axe...Use a Buzzsaw

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: BadShot on February 09, 2004, 11:33:37 AM

jabroni, i'm proud of you, man!!!

there have to be alot of other topics that we can pick to disagree on!!!

see ya soon . . .  
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That which does not kill me makes me stronger . . .

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: BadShot on February 09, 2004, 11:48:36 AM

well, i wouldn't say that you've made any valid points, but you've made your opinion clear . . .  heh heh . . .  
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That which does not kill me makes me stronger . . .

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: JOE FALCO on February 09, 2004, 01:47:59 PM

I have NEVER IN MY LIFE seen people like LANE 1 bowlers on this site. When someone comes on here that has not been here long and ASK for an opinion on LANE 1 BALLS .. if the person responding doesn't say GREAT BALL .. NOTHING LIKE THEM .. THE BEST THERE IS .. the LANE 1 FANATICS .. go HAY WIRE! If you go back to the original post the writer states:

 ". can you all share your opinions on the lane 1 ball with me ?"

He didn't ask for only those who IDOLIZE the company to respond .. I gave my OPINION .. and I will say it any time someone ASKS!

I'm sorry if I offend the LANE 1 USERS .. but there are reasonable alternatives that provide equal or better results for MOST bowlers!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
      J O E - F A L C O

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: Brickguy221 on February 09, 2004, 02:42:20 PM

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if the person responding doesn't say GREAT BALL .. NOTHING LIKE THEM .. THE BEST THERE IS .. the LANE 1 FANATICS .. go HAY WIRE
He didn't ask for only those who IDOLIZE the company to respond .. I gave my OPINION ..  

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Joe, I must be missing something here as I went back and reread the posts a second time, a third time, etc. and I cannot fine where anyone said what you quoted above.


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Don't wear your self out cutting wood with an axe...Use a Buzzsaw

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: golfnutFL on February 09, 2004, 04:27:18 PM

I think that Joe may be trying to kick the old hornet's nest again

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: JOE FALCO on February 09, 2004, 04:54:05 PM

Perhaps I read the comment immediately following mine INCORRECTLY .. I know the writer feeling about LANE 1 .. I read all his comments .. however the insinuations are that my comments were RE-OPENING something that had been discussed. My point is the POSTER was asking for comments .. and I felt I was doing PROPER! How do you read the comments immediately following my note?
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Hit them light and watch them fight
      J O E - F A L C O

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: golfnutFL on February 09, 2004, 04:58:07 PM

I don't think that the ones IMMEDIATELY following your post had anything to do with your post.  It was Jabroni stating that he was staying out of this particular debate and others joking with him about it. That's it!

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: JOE FALCO on February 09, 2004, 05:08:08 PM

The time posted 11:38/11:45 .. could be an over lay .. giving the benefit of DOUBT .. I will concede that I am in error for making a statement that may NOT be justified .. I STAND CORRECTED .. therefore I APOLOGIZE! Thank you for bringing it to my attention!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
      J O E - F A L C O

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: golfnutFL on February 09, 2004, 05:14:26 PM

Getting back on topic.....Joe, you mentioned the Apocalypse has put your GN in the bag? Are they drilled similarly? If so I'm real suprised that the GN is the weaker of the 2 balls especially on medium conditions

Edited on 2/9/2004 6:11 PM

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: And1_headach on February 09, 2004, 05:27:59 PM

$50-100... thats about it.
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Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: BOWLGNUT on February 09, 2004, 05:35:59 PM

EACH COMPANIES HAVE DIFFERENT CORES AND COVERSTOCK. BUT THERE'S HAS BEEN SOME THE SAME BUT WITH TWEAKING OF COVERSTOCK TO MAKE THE BALL MORE OR LESS ARGESSIVE.I AGREE THAT CORE IS UNIQUE. BUT REGARDISE OF WHAT CORE THAT LANE 1 OR BRUNSWICK-TRACK HAS SO FAR. AND EVEN THE COVERSTOCK. I GET ALL THE INFRO THAT I CAN GET ON THE BALL= DRILLING AND OIL CONDITION THAT BALL IS USE ON. BUT IF THAT BALL DON'T FIT MY STYLE BY SWINGING IT OUT OR DOWN AND IN.I WILL NOT GET IT.I'M NOT SAYING THAT ONE COMPANY IS BETTER THAN OTHERS.BUT IT IS HOW YOU HAVE THAT BALL SET UP TO USE.THAT IS WHAT MAKES THE BALL GREAT FOR THAT PERSON.OR SOME CASE DON'T WORK AT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU USE THE BALL FOR.

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: JOE FALCO on February 09, 2004, 05:36:22 PM

I think I was TRYING to say that the APOCALYPSE is just as good on MED conditions as the GN! Time may prove that one ball is better then the other (I don't have the APOCALYPSE long enough)but for right now .. I am satisfied that it's JUST AS GOOD. Drillings are not my thing .. best I can do is compare to the drilling sheets provided by each company .. GN - LABEL; APO - 6" from PAP .. I hope that answers your question!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
      J O E - F A L C O

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: golfnutFL on February 09, 2004, 06:02:32 PM

Joe,
Looking at the drillings you've specified has me scratching my head. The drilling on your Apocalypse "Works best on drier oil patterns. Designed for the most length and minimal backend reaction." Length=10, Backend=3.  These are Roto's words and specs.

The GN label drilled has Length=8 and Backend=9, or in other words, a pretty aggressive drill compared to your Apocalypse. ( Not to mention its particle coverstock vs. reactive of the other)

I think your balls are drilled for very different conditions, I really don't think that they are at all comparable.  If they are reacting similarly and you think that they are comparable I would suggest that the GN is probably burning all its energy too early.  I think that your GN would be effective on oilier conditions that your Apocalypse wouldn't be able to handle.

Edited on 2/9/2004 6:59 PM

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: JOE FALCO on February 09, 2004, 10:26:46 PM

Thank you for the analysis .. If I read the drill sheets from LANE 1 .. it appears that my drilling would have GOOD LENGTH and VERY GOOD BACK-END .. (I think they rate them 8-9) I use the ball on MED oil (I rarely find HVY OIL) and I get an arc to the pocket (I don't feel it's BIG BACK END) .. I peruse the Roto Grip drilling instructions and I see I should have LENGTH (10) with Angular Backend Reaction (4) I use the AP on MED oil again and I feel the ball is ARCING to the pocket .. Thats what I'm writing about .. I feel I'm getting EQUAL action from the two balls (so far).

Now, have I tried the GN on DRY .. yes .. I was unhappy with the results. You suggest (as defined by Roto Grip) that the AP will work BETTER on DRY .. I hope both you and Roto Grip are RIGHT! I will be one HAPPY BOWLER.

Now I'm sure I misquoted or misunderstood .. but I'll be happy to discuss this further without taking others time .. JKJFALCO@AOL.COM ... thanks for your analysis again!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
      J O E - F A L C O

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: lane1lover on February 10, 2004, 01:22:24 AM

Sorry guy if I make you so embrassment for defending the lane 1 ball, why I want to start this thread because I have a cherry bomb and I felt great when I first used it, the ball is really snap and hit hard, but after I have replugged the finger hole by another driller who did not drill my ball, (the pin of the ball is just above the ring finger hole and it is a 4 X 3 with balance hole pattern), when I take my ball back, I found he drilled the finger hole so deep..deep when he replugged it and the whole ball weight was altered, I also throught he might demage the bomb head , more, he polished my ball with some unknown stuff which make my cherry so slippy and not absorb the oil anymore, finally, I found my ball is changed from 0.5 oz top weight to 0.5 oz buttom weight, he kill my ball and my ball did hook less 10 board then before and the pin stand up so soon.
So, I agree with you guy said the ball is specific for some bowler and lane condition, but I can see the ball so be highly intensive caring, any minor unprofessional changes should kill the ball immediately.

Title: Re: what is the different lane1 product between the other brand
Post by: freedomrules3 on February 13, 2004, 08:33:25 PM

I personally think the lane 1 balls are some of the best on the market. when i bought my cherry bomb a year ago nobody in our house had ever even heard of them before. after raising my average over 20 pins from a 171 to a 193, two of my teammates bought lane 1 balls, another cherry bomb and a super carbide bomb. not sure if it was a fluke or not but our team needless to say has been kicking butt and taking names..... after switching over we finished second in the 1st third and ran away with the second third losing only 4 games out of 44 . i must state we are (or was) a very average team seldom placing above 3rd or 4th place. Since then there have been 3 other bowlers in the house who bought lane 1 balls. the trend seems to be cathing on lol soon we will lose our edge . One thing i did notice with the cherry bomb was that after 300 games it was tracked very badly and had lost it's mixability on the pins. I got it resurfaced and polished but it was never the same , hooks fine still just doesnt mix em up as well as before. Simple solution lol while buying a new uranium just buy a fresh cherry bomb as well, got them today and going to the pro shop in the morning. ARE THE LANE 1 BALLS SUPERIOR TO OTHERS ? I've thrown every make of ball out there and i like the way lane 1 balls roll and react , other balls ive thrown ( x factor , trauma, collossus,) are all great balls but confidence is 50% of the game if not more and i am confident in my lane 1 balls to produce and that for me they do. got an 11 in a row with my cherry bomb earlier this year. lane 1 is my company at least for now . hope i dont stir things up more lol

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