Post by: Nicanor on January 09, 2007, 08:41:46 AM
Both Triggerman and Drillwizard put their G-Force bowling ball cost shipped anywhere in the US (not including Alaska or Hawaii I'm guessing) and others who want to sell them say "Message me". Are they giving a secret don't tell anybody deal.
I won't deal with people like that. If you want to use Ballreviews as you selling place especially the Lane 1 forum (which is not a ball for sale forum) then at least have the courtesy to post the cost as well.
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Post by: No Open Tenths on January 09, 2007, 04:45:05 PM
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Post by: SprayNpray on January 09, 2007, 05:06:08 PM
I have seen from time to time, sellers list the price, which is probably against the wishes of Lane #1.
All that being said, I agree with you that it is a pain to have to PM someone and wait for a response just to find out the price of an item for sale. Not sure why there is any reservation about listing the price up front as far as Lane #1 is concerned.
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Post by: Nicanor on January 09, 2007, 07:10:36 PM
167 dollars shipped to your door and 32 dollars to drill still puts this out the door for 199 dollars. Not cheap by any means, but it seems Lane 1's prices are starting to compare to other major companies like Storm Brunsick and Ebonite. Seems like through the years Lane 1 has come down a touch where as most other companies are going up. as they should. Not complaining.
I have bought bowling balls from some of these guys who don't give the price for a ball shipped until you talk to them and they have consistently been more expensive then Drillwizard to Triggerman.
Just an observation.
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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Post by: HammerHawg on January 09, 2007, 07:24:49 PM
Post by: zeusjr on January 09, 2007, 07:57:50 PM
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but, once Lane #1 sells the ball do the distributor/pro shop/seller, and the ball has been paid for, Lane #1 has no standing as to what said seller does with the equipment. Lane #1 already got their money, and the owner is free to do as he wishes.
This is true, but Lane#1 can then not sell them the next newest release.
Causing the shop to lose money so they agree to the manufactures wishes. Just the way it works..
Post by: Nicanor on January 10, 2007, 07:46:25 AM
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Post by: novawagonmaster on January 10, 2007, 08:03:32 AM
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but, once Lane #1 sells the ball do the distributor/pro shop/seller, and the ball has been paid for, Lane #1 has no standing as to what said seller does with the equipment. Lane #1 already got their money, and the owner is free to do as he wishes.
This is true, but Lane#1 can then not sell them the next newest release.
That's exactly right Zues. I was selling some high performance car parts a while back, and one of the manufacturers cut me off for selling too low. I had no overhead, so I could work on a smaller margin. Larger retailers were whining to the manufacturer that they could not compete with me, so the manufacturer looked at who sold more of their products over the long term. The larger retailers won out, and I was cut off. Just another instance where the big guys can use their weight to squash the small guy out of business. That's just life in the real world.
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Post by: Top Of The Line on January 10, 2007, 08:05:24 AM
Zeus while this is supposed to be true it is 100% not inforced. It sounds real good by L1 saying they wont sell to so and so if they break the rules. I know for fact that there are a number of their best sellers who break these rules most if not all of the time. And there is no way that Lane#1 is cutting off their best sellers. I hope someone from the hype machine reads this and responds. No one has ever been cut off from buying, sounds good but entirely smoke and mirrors. As long as they get their money their happy. They will do or say anything to make the sellers happy, trust me.
Post by: Brickguy221 on January 10, 2007, 10:13:50 AM
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One of the points I was really trying to make is that these interent sales people are using the Lane 1 forum as a ball sale forum and add no value to the forum. Triggerman and Doug Sterner at least answer questions about Lane 1 equipment, talk about drillings etc. But then you see those who write "I am taking pre-orders" or "I have these bowling balls for sale or on EBAY" but they give no real value to the Lane 1 forum.
Nic, you are exactly right. Other than Doug and Triggerman, the other internet sellers offer no value to this forum. They should stick strictly to the "For Sale" forum. As for Doug and Triggerman, they are both terrific guys. They don't just post to sell balls as others do, they also post to help people, and I will go a step further and say they post to help people more than they post to sell balls. I have bought balls from both of them and I have asked and received help/advice from both of them. Neither has ever failed me.
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Post by: Nicanor on January 10, 2007, 10:23:24 AM
So why does Buddies Pro shop have the G-Force on his website for $167.50? Same price as Drillwizard and Triggerman and its posted on Buddies website.
What a bunch of crock.
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Edited on 1/10/2007 11:23 AM
Post by: DonSVO on January 10, 2007, 11:24:37 AM
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01/04/06: 192, 267, 246 = 705
Running Avg (45 games): 190
Post by: Brickguy221 on January 10, 2007, 12:05:48 PM
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I've bought a few balls off of Drillwizard, and have nothing but good things to say about all my transactions.
Don, no one is questioning good or bad transactions. The Topic is about people using the Lane 1 Forum strictly for advertisement while contributing nothing useful to the forum.
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Post by: DonSVO on January 10, 2007, 12:08:04 PM
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Brunswick and Lane #1: there is no other. Well... maybe a few Storms... and a One. Did I mention Roto Grip yet?
01/04/06: 192, 267, 246 = 705
Running Avg (45 games): 190
Post by: Kinalyx on January 10, 2007, 09:04:18 PM
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I think most, not all Lane 1 bowling balls (new to the market) are dropped shipped. Shipping is what it is and its usually within about 5 dollars.
167 dollars shipped to your door and 32 dollars to drill still puts this out the door for 199 dollars. Not cheap by any means, but it seems Lane 1's prices are starting to compare to other major companies like Storm Brunsick and Ebonite. Seems like through the years Lane 1 has come down a touch where as most other companies are going up. as they should. Not complaining.
I have bought bowling balls from some of these guys who don't give the price for a ball shipped until you talk to them and they have consistently been more expensive then Drillwizard to Triggerman.
Just an observation.
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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
No offense, but i hate u. Where do u get your balls drilled for $32?
My driller is 40, just for the holes, 5 for finger tips, 10 for thumb insert, plus tax is right around $60 to drill for me.
I tried going no finger tips or thumb insert. My hands dont like the resin, it makes me dry up really bad & my skin cracks. Otherwise it would only be about $45ish for drilling.
Shawn
Post by: Nicanor on January 10, 2007, 09:31:56 PM
I live just outside of San Diego and I use exactacator thumb slugs and Vise grips. Having the Exacatacator thumb slugs alreay made up helps in drilling the ball. You can drill a bowling ball for me within 5 minutes (except the layout) I know not everyone likes the Exactacator thumb slug, but it works well for me. The shop does this for me even with internet bowling balls. They figure they make 30 dollars a ball and they don't have to stock too many bowling balls. I know it doesn't work for everyone, but the shop owner is a retired Sheriff.
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Post by: metallicaaaaaaa on January 10, 2007, 09:37:57 PM
Post by: Brickguy221 on January 10, 2007, 10:59:52 PM
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Post by: Nicanor on January 11, 2007, 07:16:31 AM
To keep this thread Lane 1, I just drilled another Megaton yesterday with the pin left of my PAP about 1 1/4 and the CG straight across in the middle of the fingers and thumb. Is the the drilling referred to as semi pin axis?
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Post by: Warren300 on January 11, 2007, 10:18:39 AM
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Post by: Nicanor on January 11, 2007, 01:04:59 PM
Sorry Warren, I'm much rather do business with Drillwizard and Triggerman then you or Beans. Thats just a personal choice, not trying to sway any business becuase you also have a great rep. You just don't add anything to the Lane 1 forum in my opinion.
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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Post by: Warren300 on January 11, 2007, 01:17:36 PM
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Got a question email me at warren@hebowlingsupply.com
Visit my ebay store or on the web at
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Edited on 1/11/2007 2:18 PM
Post by: DonSVO on January 11, 2007, 01:47:41 PM
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Shawn,
I live just outside of San Diego and I use exactacator thumb slugs and Vise grips. Having the Exacatacator thumb slugs alreay made up helps in drilling the ball. You can drill a bowling ball for me within 5 minutes (except the layout) I know not everyone likes the Exactacator thumb slug, but it works well for me.
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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
I live here in Dallas, and I use a molded thumb in all of my gear. My driller can punch up a ball in 10 minutes, that does include the layout using the degree method. The only thing that takes time is the fingers, since i don't use grips and we make sure that the edges stay sharp after cleaning up.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i111/donsvo/thumbslugcomparo.jpg
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Brunswick and Lane #1: there is no other. Well... maybe a few Storms... and a One. Did I mention Roto Grip yet?
01/04/06: 192, 267, 246 = 705
Running Avg (45 games): 190
Edited on 1/11/2007 2:46 PM
Post by: Doug Sterner on January 14, 2007, 03:22:07 PM
As for the pricing, there are 2 reasons why you don't see people list prices...
1. It is true that Lane 1 doesn't want us posting the pricing for preorders simply because they don't want the price gouging to get out of hand. Personally I like to post the price and that tells everyone what I am going to charge. I don't like playing games and it's easier on me to do it that way. Unfortunately, Lane 1 doesn't want it that way.
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2. Some guys do not post prices so that they can intentionally undercut the other guys. Guys who post their prices run the risk of any buyer do some window shopping and doing the "Hey, Johhny Q, I want to buy a G-Force and I can get it from Stevie S for $XXX.XX. How much from you?" And then of course Stevie quotes him a lower price. Well then the buyer goes back to Johnny Q and says "Stevie S will sell me one for $XX.XX. Can you match that price?" And he continues to play the game until the buyer is satisfied with his price.
As for the new releases, pretty much everybody knows what I charge for the new releases...it's always the same.
Lemme knowif I can be of more assistance.
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Post by: triggerman on January 14, 2007, 06:35:37 PM
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