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Nicanor

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Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force
« on: January 15, 2007, 11:57:49 PM »
I did not get this from Lane 1 directly but I read this is the Bowling Journal.  They say that the 1:30 layout is recommended for the G-Force.


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Re: Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2007, 08:20:40 AM »
Not entirely sure.  Looking at the G-Force's drill sheet, the label 1:30 drilling does offer the strongest flare and backend combination compared to the other drillings listed.

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Re: Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2007, 09:15:17 AM »
I know when the One came out it had drillings it didn't recommend and a lot of drillers reommend a stacked leverage drillng for a ball with this potential.  So I thought I'd ask why the recommended 1:30 drillng for the G-Force.


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Re: Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2007, 10:07:48 AM »
I have found anytime you do not stack the diamond or bomb cores the lane 1 balls hook alot but when they are stacked if you do not have alot of tilt they do not hook that much. I think that the end over end rollers like me and alot of regular bowlers benefit from the core shift whether it is 1-30 or a 10-30 shift. I prefer the 10-30 shift with low weight holes on diamond and bomb cores but i am low-medium revs and almost no ball tilt maybe 10-15 degrees of axis tilt at the most.

Of course i could be talking out my behind but this is why i believe they recommend this for most bowlers.
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Re: Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2007, 11:20:13 AM »
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Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force


Interesting........

The first time I tried Lane 1 balls 3 1/2+ years ago, I had all of them drilled in that area and it was a total disaster for me. They all blew for me and I swore I would never buy another Lane 1.

Then I began hearing people talk about CG out drillings and I began to wish I had tried that on those Lane 1 balls. As time went on I kept wanting to try a Lane 1 one more time but scared to. Finally after talking to Triggerman and Mrbowlingnut, I got up enough courage to try a Lane 1 one more time. These two guys both chose the EU for me. Having somewhat similar revs, speed, and tilt, Mrbowlingnut "firmly" instructed me to tilt the core and drill it CG out with Triggerman recommending likewise. I drilled it Pin under RF-CG out and this ball immediately became one of the best balls I have ever had and first ball out of my bag, always.

At this point, I feel Mrbowlingnut may be correct in saying that CG out works better if you don't have  lot of tilt....At this point, it appears that may be the case for me anyhow. Anxious to see what happens on a Bomb Core when I get my new Solid Cobalt Bomb drilled. Right now I can't get to the pro shop because of the weather.

My point of writing all of this is that even though the Core in the G Force is supposed to be somewhat different, it is still similar and therefore a 1:30 drilling would still scare me.
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Re: Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2007, 11:24:24 AM »
They say 1:30 and not specific pin distance?
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Re: Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2007, 11:57:49 AM »
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I have found anytime you do not stack the diamond or bomb cores the lane 1 balls hook alot

For me, a 1:30 drilling has not worked well since the Pearl Cherry and Blueberry C2 balls.  In fact, the Carbide Bomb and Cherry Bomb just plain stunk with that drilling for me.  Too much over/under (mostly under though).  Also, for me, the Bomb cores arc more than the regular diamond cores which arc a little less and snap a little more.  In summation, I am leery of drilling another Lane#1 ball (outside of maybe a XXXL) 1:30 label versus a stacked or CG out type of drilling.

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Re: Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2007, 03:52:10 PM »
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They say 1:30 and not specific pin distance?
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Yes, I have no idea what they mean, do you, Nick?

Folks,

Without referencing pin-PAP distance AND pin height above the midline you are not referencing anything.

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Nicanor

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Re: Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2007, 04:51:12 PM »
Sorry to add this late but the Bowlers journal said that they saw 5 inches of flare with the 4.5 inch and the 4 inch 1:30 layout (Lane 1's suggestion).

I also have hd much success with the 10:30 drilling and little success with the 1:30 drilling.  So before I punch up the G-Force I was hoping to get some info from those who know.


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Re: Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2007, 07:05:24 PM »
Every ball I've ever tried drilled 1:30 has sucked for me, no matter what company it was I would never suggest this drilling to anyone.
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Re: Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2007, 11:20:08 AM »
I would say 1:30 drillings work better with shorter pins and 10:30 works better with longer pins. =:^D
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Re: Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2007, 11:45:43 AM »
Well, I must be just the opposite.  For me, the 1:30 type of layouts with fairly strong pins (3.5" to 4.5" depending on the ball) have been my absolute favorites on buzzsaws.  I had a solid carbide and a C2 that I loved with those layouts.  When the bomb cores came out, I (for some reason) tried a couple stacked layouts and some cg out layouts w/ weight holes and really didn't care for them for the most part.  

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Re: Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2007, 07:11:43 PM »
What I have found is that 1:30 label type drills on Lane 1 stuff has (for me anyway) not worked all that well BUT....for the down and in end over end stroker types the layout is awesome.

CG out drills tend to work better if you have a higher rev rate or ball speed.

I think the new twisted core in the G Force puts it in the same category as the No Mercy. The pin right of ring with mass bias bias in the track has always been the highest hooking drilling on the lane 1 drill sheet. But again it's all about match up.....do what works.
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Re: Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2007, 07:03:54 PM »
I fall into the "high tracking stroker" category.
Label 1:30 drills do work well for me as long as I am not forced deep inside.
If so, I start leaving ten pins. The CG out drills seem to turn the corner harder, and that helps kick out the ten pin. However, on a fresh shot, I'll take a strong smooth arc over skid flip any day. It's a consistency thing.
My G-force will be drilled up 1:30, and I am sure it will be a monster.
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Re: Why does Lane 1 recommend a 1:30 drilling for the G-Force
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2007, 07:23:59 PM »
Amen John....my G-Force will get the 1:30 label drill as well.....have not drilled one that way in a long time and this may just be the ball to go back to this drilling with.

I'll see what happens the end of this week.....
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