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JessN16

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Wife needs a new ball...
« on: October 16, 2008, 10:09:11 AM »
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* Slow to medium-slow speed (12 mph avg.)
* PAP 2 1/4 over 3/4 up
* Low to medium-low revs, but improving

She currently throws a 14-pound Roto Grip Silver Streak SE at 2000 Abralon with no polish. We're going to stay at 14 pounds in weight due to a pre-existing back injury.

What we're having trouble with in regards to the SSSE is a lack of consistent reaction at the breakpoint. This is one of my old balls and it's the reason I gave it to her in the first place. I was hoping that with her different PAP numbers and such that she could throw it well. It hasn't worked out that way.

She previously had a BVP Rampage and a Columbia Throttle when she was still using 12-pound equipment. The Rampage was a polished pearl and the Throttle a matte-finish solid. She seemed to be more consistent with the Throttle but had better scoring potential with the Rampage.

I'm thinking about moving her to something from Lane #1 but not really sure what to get her, how to drill it or how to prep it. I'm eyeing a G-Force Nebula because I can get one for cheap, NIB. While that might seem like too strong of a ball for our medium- to medium-light lane conditions, she does need a little help getting to the pocket sometimes. She has the tendency to break down her wrist right at the point of release and not get a lot of turn on the ball.

My biggest questions are layout and surface prep. I've not drilled a bunch of stuff for someone with such a short PAP, so I'm kind of nervous about doing this, as I'm afraid she's going to thump the holes if the pin ends up on the negative side. We left the pin above the bridge on the SSSE -- where it was when I used the ball -- because we didn't know what her PAP was going to be beforehand. With it in that position, her layout works out to basically a 2x2.

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Re: Wife needs a new ball...
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2008, 08:12:09 PM »
go with a xp with a stacked drilling
some midlane to help get to the pocket
with some pop on the backend
should be consistent and be her benchmark ball
and will make her look like she has plenty of revs

 
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JessN16

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Re: Wife needs a new ball...
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2008, 08:46:56 PM »
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go with a xp with a stacked drilling
some midlane to help get to the pocket
with some pop on the backend
should be consistent and be her benchmark ball
and will make her look like she has plenty of revs

 


I've got an XP and was thinking about that ball for her, but the backend on that ball is nightmarish. I might go a little further than "helping" her hook the ball in the back if I drilled one of those up. (g) It's on the list, though.

Jess
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Re: Wife needs a new ball...
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2008, 08:54:55 PM »
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Re: Wife needs a new ball...
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2008, 08:57:20 PM »
Just curious does she wear a wrist brace breaking her wrist at release is just killing the hook.
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Re: Wife needs a new ball...
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2008, 09:45:36 PM »
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Just curious does she wear a wrist brace breaking her wrist at release is just killing the hook.
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She wears one of those very basic Robbys things that just holds her wrist steadier than usual. She doesn't wear a robo brace. She thinks they're too bulky.

She releases the ball much like I do -- I don't hit up on the ball as much as my hand exits while turning like was opening a doorknob. Sometimes, she just doesn't turn it.

There aren't any great coaches to work with here. I had her work with Ron Clifton for a few hours at The Gathering this year and he did wonders for her, but it mostly concerned her footwork and pushaway, which were a mess before. We ran out of time before getting to the nuances of the release.

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Re: Wife needs a new ball...
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2008, 12:26:50 PM »
Rico an XP @ 4000 abralon, no polish (should get length and backend drive with no roll out) the carry of the XP just might be beneficial.  just a suggestion.
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Re: Wife needs a new ball...
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2008, 02:51:46 PM »
weakly drilled polished THS is the better choice, ball gets good length but smooths out the over under
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Re: Wife needs a new ball...
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2008, 04:43:43 PM »
I would second the THS, it is the smoothest of the smooth, and handles surface adjustments very well to handle all kinds of shots she might face.
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Re: Wife needs a new ball...
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2008, 05:00:39 PM »
I would look for a 0-1" pin and drill it straight up. A 2 1/4" PAP is a spinner. The track can't be close to the finger or thumb holes. She needs the ball to get into a end over end roll. I wouldn't worry about any layout hitting the gripping holes. =:^D

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JessN16

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Re: Wife needs a new ball...
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2008, 05:28:21 PM »
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I would look for a 0-1" pin and drill it straight up. A 2 1/4" PAP is a spinner. The track can't be close to the finger or thumb holes. She needs the ball to get into a end over end roll. I would worry about any layout hitting the gripping holes. =:^D


Right now we're already getting close to the thumb hole sometimes.

When you say "drill it straight up" on a 0-1 ball, are you talking about pin roughly in the palm?

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Re: Wife needs a new ball...
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2008, 09:56:14 PM »
Jess, sorry in my original post. I was supposed to be saying "I wouldn't worry about hitting the holes". It's impossible for a track to be close to the thumb with a 2 1/4" PAP, especially if it's only up 3/4".

I would re-check your PAP measurement by tracing your track and placing the ball on a spinner or by placing tape on the ball until it's stays perfectly tight in the first part of the lane. Then take the measurements from there. I highly doubt your wirfe has a 2 1/2" PAP measurement. =:^D
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JessN16

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Re: Wife needs a new ball...
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2008, 10:02:28 PM »
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Jess, sorry in my original post. I was supposed to be saying "I wouldn't worry about hitting the holes". It's impossible for a track to be close to the thumb with a 2 1/4" PAP, especially if it's only up 3/4".

I would re-check your PAP measurement by tracing your track and placing the ball on a spinner or by placing tape on the ball until it's stays perfectly tight in the first part of the lane. Then take the measurements from there. I highly doubt your wirfe has a 2 1/2" PAP measurement. =:^D


The measurements are correct. The problem is she doesn't release the ball consistently enough from shot to shot. We've got oil lines all over not just her strike ball, but a plastic ball we used to get the original PAP measurement with. The numbers I quoted were from the shots that represent her most frequent rolls and the ones that gave her the best look. What she really needs is a lot more practice.

Her vertical measurement was, at one time, around 1 1/2 up. It's started to migrate downwards now.

Again with the question: Given me a better idea of what you mean by "straight up." Thanks!

Jess

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T-GOD

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Re: Wife needs a new ball...
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2008, 11:13:04 PM »
"Straight Up" over the label. Her release is inconsistant as you say. This will give her a more consistant roll. Nothing fancy. =:^D
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