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Terminator
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Coverstock: Evolution P2
Ball Color: Black/Blue Ice All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
Finish: Polished
Flare Potential: 5.5" (Low)
RG Average: 2.58 (Medium-High) on a scale of 2.43-2.8 Very low-High Break Point
RG Differential: 0.040 (Low) on a scale of .000-.080 Low-High Flare
Recommended Lane Conditions: Medium-Heavy Oil
Description: Don''t be fooled by the Terminator''s appearance. It has a unique ability of handling heavier volumes of oil that are uncharacteristic of its poilshed finish. Amazing! ...all that needs to be said of this balls ability to start clean, rev up fast and charge the pins with a powerful turn to the pocket. A must have ball for the player who desires more than whats on the surface.

 

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Re: Terminator
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2008, 09:12:41 PM »
Left handed, stacked leverage drilling same as all my balls. First would like to say that this is a very good looking ball. My house has old wood lanes but are keeped up very well with a good amount of oil laid out for all our leagues.  First game with OOB finish ball went alittle to long before turning the corner,shot 190. Took a grey scotch brite pad out my bag and hit it alittle to just knock off the shine a bit. Wow what a differece. ball got good length with a big arc to the pocket. Very controlable,with great carry. Have not shot under 200 since I took the cover down. I have a black pearl in OBB and these two balls compliment each other very well. Thanks LM for making great balls.
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Re: Terminator
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2008, 01:18:10 AM »
Ball Review for the Lane Masters Terminator

I am posting this review to help clear the air about one of my all-time favorite heavy oil balls and to put this information in its proper perspective.  This is not so much a technical review as it is a comment on ball selection choices I have seen by customers and other bowlers.  Those who read this will get some solid feed back and information on which to make their Lane Masters equipment choices.

We get many e-mails from bowlers who read our reviews and want an opinion from us on many new ball releases. We have both a tournament and a pro shop staff at our disposal that tests and evaluates almost all new releases as soon as they come out.  In that way, we are able to get timely and accurate on-the-lane feedback from bowlers with a wide range of skills and styles.  We then pass this information to our pro shop customers so they can make good choices when it comes to their bowling equipment investment.

We strive to be honest and fair in all our assessments of all test equipment from any and all companies.  But, at the same time, after a careful evaluation by our testers, our assessments will not “pull any punches” and will tell you exactly what we have discovered during this extensive testing.

Lane Masters has quickly become one of our favorite companies, especially when we get such complimentary feedback from both our testing staff and customers.  Most comments included their top notch performance, hitting power, reaction predictability, coverstock quality, and the looks they get from the other bowlers when the ball hits the pocket.

We want to post this review to help set the information straight about the Lane Masters Terminator. We read too many review postings that lead us to believe that there are many owners of this great ball that just did not fully understand what they where purchasing.

Let's start out by saying that the Terminator IS NOT a backend personality ball!

The Terminator, as well as the majority of balls from Lane Masters, is built for a smooth and controlled hooking reaction.  Lane Masters has determined that balls that have symmetrical cores and an arcing personality are more predictable and will score more consistently on a wider range of lane conditions.  This is what helps make Lane Masters balls some of the best on the planet.

We get weary of reading reviews by bowlers who just do not understand the technology of core and coverstock combinations -- which provide a certain “personality” for every ball that is manufactured.  Trying to make a ball do something that it is NOT designed to do is like running uphill on ice.  Very few bowlers can overcome the built-in personality or intended lane condition for which a specific ball was intended.  In other words – “Don’t try and MAKE the ball do what it wasn't meant to do on a condition it wasn't meant to be rolled on!”

The Terminator is one of the best and strongest HEAVY OIL balls on the market today! Don’t let the shiny coverstock fool you.  Please keep in mind that the shinier the coverstock on this ball is, the more length and energy this ball will retain (i.e. a stronger move to the pocket).  But again, keep in mind that the move that this ball will make for most bowlers will be an arching hook and roll reaction -- NOT A SNAP!  The stronger your release skills are, the more you will be able to change the look and shape of the arc/hook that you will get from this oil monster. Also keep in mind that high flare/stronger pin placement layouts will also contribute to this ball using all of its energy early if there is not enough lane oil to help this ball get down the lane.

The only place that most bowlers will see enough lane oil for this ball to work well will be in PBA experience leagues, USBC sport leagues, or at local tournaments where you know they are laying out a longer or heavier oil volume.  Attempting to use this ball on a typical league play house condition is very unwise and will result in a very frustrating experience for most bowlers.  Even with this ball shined up, the amount of oil that you will get for a typical league play situation WILL NOT be enough for this ball to work as it was intended to.

The Terminator is a great ball for those special events or sport conditions where traction and controlled hook are essential.

If you’re looking for a great Lane Masters ball with the strongest finishing hook then we suggest that you consider the Big R Bang or the new Terminator Rebellion.  Both of these balls will provide most bowlers with enough hooking board coverage that everyone around them will be asking – “Since when did you get that much hand in the ball?”

The Lane Masters Terminator is by far one of the best balls that we have ever experienced when it comes to conquering heavy oil lane conditions. As long as you understand where this ball fits in your arsenal, you will have a great tool for heavy or long oil lane conditions. We highly recommend this ball to anyone who wants to experience the power of a Lane Masters Ball.

To your continued bowling success,

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Re: Terminator
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2008, 03:53:07 PM »
the lane masters Terminator (1200 sheen)

I have drilled this bal with the pin 1/2 inch below my fingers, the cg is on the right side of that with a balance hole on my pap.

It's a fantastic ball, my first game I did through was a 289 (ringing 10 pin)!!! It hooks early has an agressive roll and has lots of pin carry, even on a 47 feet pattern I had 10 boards hook (low bal speed and track line) but on my usual house shot i can through it around the 3e/4e arrow or I can through it faster at the 2e,2 1/2e arrow.

I can reccomend this bal to every one
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I throw 16 mph and 375 rpm's
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arsenal:
circle: spare ball
storm: jolt
lane masters: xs power solid reactive
ebonite: NVS
hammer: black widow bite
lane masters: big-r bang
lane masters: terminator
lane masters: dynamic (april 2008)

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Re: Terminator
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2008, 04:14:31 AM »
With all due respect to Bowlpro, I take just a bit of issue with some of his blanket statements. I suppose that for a cranker/high rev player, the Terminator is too much ball for a THS. But I use it, with good success (about a 212 average) on a THS every Friday Night, and on a second flight league (210 average) every Tuesday night. I also use it on fried lanes on Wednesdays and Thursdays in pot games (won two pots tonight).

Mine is drilled stacked leverage. I'm pretty much a Tweener or "power stroker", with med ball speed (around 15-16). My revs pretty much match my speed. On a fresh shot, I typically roll this ball  from about 10 to about 5. When the lanes dry a bit, I go about 12 to 5, and when they're fried, I go about 15 to 7. The ball works like a charm on each of these lines. It is very versatile FOR ME, and not just an "oiler."

I also used it with good success on a tournament where there was about 45 feet of oil. I went straight up 10, and it carried wonderfully.

So again, no disrespect to Bowlpro, but I thin we need to be careful with blanket statements that seem to assume that everyone will get the same performance out of this or any other ball, and that it is a "sport" or "special occasion" ball only. I own 16 balls, and this one gets the most use, by far. For me, if I had to cut my arsenal down to only 2 balls, I'd have the Terminator and my Columbia White Dot for spares.
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Re: Terminator
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2008, 02:08:07 AM »
Right hander.
Speed=15 to 17 mph
Lower rpm est. 200
Down and in bet. 1st and 2nd arrow.

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Out of the box this thing practically skated on heavy oil, which I intended to use this ball on. Sanded the cover and it started to work pretty good; on light medium to heavy.

I found it, compared to other reactive balls, "not" sensitive to oil. In other words, it hooks about the same on medium to heavy. I can often use it for all 3 games and only have to move 3-4 boards. This may be due to my lower rev rate. May not work for others but for me I can keep my arsenal simple. Also by staying with the same line all night I can keep it in the pocket more consistently.

I do, however, have to keep my hand under the ball a little, or the back-end and pin action would suffer, Also if I don't it would not make it back in the pocket if I miss right. Overall pin action/ carry is good but not the greatest( possibly operator error, lol!)

HTH

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Re: Terminator
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2009, 08:26:22 AM »
Purchased ball on 1/09/2009, had ball drilled up around end of 1/2009. Ball came 15-2 lbs, 3 TW and a 3" PIN and was laid-out 60* X 4" X 65* which placed the PIN below the RF, with a WH 1" past VAL, 1" down, CG 1" below the midline.

Pin carry is excellent as the ball was best suited for me in the medium-heavy to heavy conditions.. OOB this ball can cover alot of boards, but with a heavy dose of polish I could make it a usable piece on the more medium conditions.  The Terminator arcs extremely hard and surprises alot of bystanders with it's beautiful color-scheme and explosive hitting power.

Yet another excellent ball from LM................
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Re: Terminator
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2009, 10:05:30 AM »
I am on my 5th year using the Terminator.  I just can't find another ball that replaces its strong roll and turn.

I did put it through the proshop Revivor Machine, and was surprised at the amount of oil it extracted, as I perform regular maintenance on my balls.  But, the proshop guy thought he was doing me a favor and finished it to 4000 abralon/polished, (he's a Storm guy, he didn't know any better).  The ball had ice skates on.

But, I didn't know about his refinish and thought I killed the ball in the Oven.  Once, I found out what he did, I took it back to the 1200 finish and the ball came back really well.  My house uses a heavy viscosity oil on Thurs for 2-shifts of league, and every one is having trouble with the spent oil in our second shift group.  The Terminator doesn't care and smashes the pins.

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Re: Terminator
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2010, 10:18:55 PM »
one of my favorite l/m balls.reads the lanes so well.hits unbelieveable.shot 2 of my best series with this one.like so much i have three.got two from friends.all drilled different.one pin next to finger stacked to maxed sanded at 800.rolls terror through oil.one pin down stacked sanded at 800 also.usually tournament read ball.third one pin in ring finger.very smooth for house shot.630 league fresh oil.the other two sometimes are way to much.if they were to remake these i would by   more .tony tm3  palmernator ball blue and silver ball with this weight block.with particle heavyloaded pearl coverstock maybe.me and palmer joke about this.

just wishing  i could make that one
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Re: Terminator
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2010, 02:27:25 PM »
Recently, I heard of a limited run of the Terminator coming out.  If that's so, I want another.

Can this be confirmed?  The sales rep let this cat out of the bag at my pro shop.  Is this wishful thinking?  Or real?

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Re: Terminator
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2010, 09:38:43 AM »
I guess the soon to be released Terminator Resurrection is the ball I was looking for.

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Re: Terminator
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2010, 08:48:47 PM »
check forum.the release dates are there
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Re: Terminator
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2010, 08:48:48 PM »
check forum.the release dates are there
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Re: Terminator
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2010, 07:50:41 AM »
I'm excited.  While inquiring about my Terminator Resurrection delivery at my pro shop, the pro guy mentioned how I loved my Original Terminator.  Just then, another customer chimed in and asked why I no longer roll it.  I explained that I dropped from 16# to 15# and had to lay it aside.

Then, he mentions that he has a 5 yr/old, brand new Terminator, still in the box, and would be willing to sell it.  15# too.  I asked him to bring it to the pro shop, so I could see it.

Last week, it was delivered.  It is brand new.  Bought it on the spot and get it drilled tonight.  This is too much to believe.

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Re: Terminator
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2010, 08:34:43 AM »
I had forgotten how strong this ball really was.  It is drilled 5" pin to PAP with the cg right of center.  I refinished the ball to 600 grit sheen, just because it sat in a box for 5 years.

It was a controllable Monster.  255-218-257 for 730 right out of the pro shop in league.  My love affair has been renewed with this ball.

Now, how will the Resurrection compare to this one?

PS:  I forgot about the sound that this Lane Master ball has when it hits.  Nothing like it.

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Re: Terminator
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2011, 09:39:43 AM »
LANE CONDITION

Length:    Inconsistent at best
 
Volume:   Inconsistent at best

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):   THS

 
COMMENTS

Style:  Tweener
Speed:  ~15-16
Revs:  Medium
 
Average:  195 at AMF Center known as '10 Pin Alley' locally.   
 
Likes:   I picked this ball up used off of Ebay for next to nothing.  It is drilled stacked, pin below.  Not sure of specifics as it is a used ball.  I got this because my driller mentioned he throws nothing but Lane Masters equipment because it hits hard and tends to keep the pins low due to not having a light weight filler.    The span is actually a little short for me, ~3/8", but I haven't adjusted it yet as I have been throwing between 600 and 675 with it consistently as it is.    This ball hits hard and the carry is phenomenal.  When I throw it wide, it almost always comes back and if I pull it through the middle a bit, it will hold the line and still hit the pocket.   I originally looked at it as my Brunswick Wild Thing seems to have died after one short summer season and I was told that LM equipment lasts nearly forever.
 
On the rare occasion, like last week league, when the house shot is completely screwed up do to a very bad oil job and the Terminator just won't quite finish for me, I have been able to bring out a Lane Masters "New Standard", another used ball find, and with its diamond particle finish, it will tear through the strange oiling and find the pocket.   It doesn't seem to have quite the same hitting power as the Terminator, but it allows me to throw in the low 600's consistently.
  
Not much else to say other than this ball made me a Lane Masters convert.  I am soon to add the Terminator Rebellion and Resurrection to my bag to complete this set.    
 
 
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