Post by: Cranking_Inferno on June 20, 2006, 04:03:12 AM
Am I getting less reaction than a 15lb. or 16lb. ball drilled the same way?
Are they really taking core weight out, instead of filler or coverstock weight?
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Currently in the 6 ball roller:
14lb. EPX-T1 - Stacked - Heavy oil
14lb. Action - Stacked - Heavy/Medium oil
14lb. Absolute Inferno - 1:30 - Medium oil
14lb. Sahara - 11:50 Length - Medium oil
14lb. New Standard - Stacked - Medium - Dry
14lb. XXXL - Stacked - Spare ball
Post by: shelley on June 20, 2006, 12:06:31 PM
Post by: mrbowlingnut on June 20, 2006, 01:42:58 PM
Just prodding you for your pal Shelley hahaha Your are correct imo the weight is out of the cores but i can tell you one thing these babies hit like trucks in 15 and 16 lb, so when you do move up it will all be a different outlook.
Post by: bowlingmaniac017 on June 20, 2006, 02:04:37 PM
I dont remember who else does. I think Walter Ray does and for some reason I think Steve Jaros but could be wrong there.
Post by: bowlingmaniac017 on June 20, 2006, 02:08:04 PM
Post by: shelley on June 20, 2006, 02:14:49 PM
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I dont remember who else does. I think Walter Ray does and for some reason I think Steve Jaros but could be wrong there.
WRW just switched back from 15# to 16#. They mentioned it on the WC telecast. For his straight game, the 16# deflects less and probably carries the 5-pin and 8-pin better.
SH
Post by: charlest on June 20, 2006, 02:39:59 PM
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So the 14# core is really weak on these balls?
Am I getting less reaction than a 15lb. or 16lb. ball drilled the same way?
Are they really taking core weight out, instead of filler or coverstock weight?
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Currently in the 6 ball roller:
14lb. EPX-T1 - Stacked - Heavy oil
14lb. Action - Stacked - Heavy/Medium oil
14lb. Absolute Inferno - 1:30 - Medium oil
14lb. Sahara - 11:50 Length - Medium oil
14lb. New Standard - Stacked - Medium - Dry
14lb. XXXL - Stacked - Spare ball
yeah, they're just terrible. get rid of them quickly so you won't have to worry about them. They only make them in 14 lb sizes so they can rip you personally off. They don't test them or nothing. Maybe you should save your sales receipts, so you can take them to court and sue them.
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Oy vey!
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Edited on 6/20/2006 2:38 PM
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on June 20, 2006, 03:08:57 PM
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Post by: Brickguy221 on June 20, 2006, 04:36:17 PM
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Am I getting less reaction than a 15lb. or 16lb. ball drilled the same way?
It appears that may be the case on L/LM balls although I will stop short of saying "yes it is".
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Are they really taking core weight out, instead of filler or coverstock weight?
That is what I hear, but again I will stop short of saying "yes it is".
However, Barry is dead-on about the hit of the 15 & 16 lb balls as I have witnessed this my self in watching the people that throw 15 & 16 L/LM balls.
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Edited on 6/20/2006 4:38 PM
Post by: charlest on June 20, 2006, 04:59:13 PM
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I thought they always play with the core density to make balls heavier and lighter.
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Maybe they do and maybe they don't. Whatever.
To assume the ball is weak SOLELY because they removed core material is making a rash assumption. Ask Lanemasters how the core differs, IF YOU ARE TRULY WORRIED ABOUT THAT ASPECT. Ask how the RG and RG DIfferential differs from 14 to 15 to 16. Then ask how you should drill them to satisfy your desires.
You lose a vital pound somewhere along the line going from 16 to 15 to 14 in EVERY manufacturer's balls.
Unless you ask the proper expert about a subject, any conjecture makes any conclusion totally without merit.
FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH,
I have found huge disparities in older Brunswick balls between core specifications between 16 and 15 lb balls. This disparity required very different drillings to get similar reactions from the same model ball. This could very well be the case for Legends balls when going from 15 to 14 lb balls. I don't know; ask the expert: Call Galen at Legends.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Edited on 6/20/2006 5:00 PM
Post by: Cranking_Inferno on June 20, 2006, 08:26:12 PM
I mean just because I have my opinion on things doesn't mean thye are right or wrong... At least I have the courage to be original, and stand my ground
To you few idiots that keep replying to my posts just to make lame jokes your a bunch of total dumd @ss kids... get a life
and to you ... mrbowlingnut ... after 5 yrs of throwing 15#s, i switch to 14# which really is a matter of maybe 13 ounces since I drill all heavy 14s .. around 14.5
I rolled 3 800 series and 3 300 games within 6 weeks of the switch.
For some bowlers the slight change in defelction through the 1 3 5 increases pin carry. Its not a matter of who ever throws more weight has a bigger shlong, you sound so damn lame its not even funny.
Dont reply to posts if you want to be lame.
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Currently in the 6 ball roller:
14lb. EPX-T1 - Stacked - Heavy oil
14lb. Action - Stacked - Heavy/Medium oil
14lb. Absolute Inferno - 1:30 - Medium oil
14lb. Sahara - 11:50 Length - Medium oil
14lb. New Standard - Stacked - Medium - Dry
14lb. XXXL - Stacked - Spare ball
Post by: legend4life95 on June 20, 2006, 08:40:09 PM
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Post by: smash8-10split on June 20, 2006, 08:44:29 PM
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None of the "PROS" on Legends staff seem to have a problem with 14lbs. Since all pros throw 14lbs right?? Why does it matter, if the pros can score with them...Don't all the PROS use 14s?
genius
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Post by: Bowljr300 on June 20, 2006, 09:11:16 PM
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OK, enough with the retarded joke sh|t alright..
I mean just because I have my opinion on things doesn't mean thye are right or wrong... At least I have the courage to be original, and stand my ground
To you few idiots that keep replying to my posts just to make lame jokes your a bunch of total dumd @ss kids... get a life
and to you ... mrbowlingnut ... after 5 yrs of throwing 15#s, i switch to 14# which really is a matter of maybe 13 ounces since I drill all heavy 14s .. around 14.5
I rolled 3 800 series and 3 300 games within 6 weeks of the switch.
For some bowlers the slight change in defelction through the 1 3 5 increases pin carry. Its not a matter of who ever throws more weight has a bigger shlong, you sound so damn lame its not even funny.
Dont reply to posts if you want to be lame.
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Currently in the 6 ball roller:
14lb. EPX-T1 - Stacked - Heavy oil
14lb. Action - Stacked - Heavy/Medium oil
14lb. Absolute Inferno - 1:30 - Medium oil
14lb. Sahara - 11:50 Length - Medium oil
14lb. New Standard - Stacked - Medium - Dry
14lb. XXXL - Stacked - Spare ball
Looks like someone is stuck on stupid.
Post by: shelley on June 20, 2006, 11:27:17 PM
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OK, enough with the retarded joke **** alright..
I mean just because I have my opinion on things doesn't mean thye are right or wrong... At least I have the courage to be original, and stand my ground
To you few idiots that keep replying to my posts just to make lame jokes your a bunch of total dumd *** kids... get a life
Just a heads-up, but the admin, Ben, doesn't take kindly to that sort of potty language. If you don't want to get banned or deleted, you really should change your post.
SH
Post by: mrbowlingnut on June 21, 2006, 12:21:07 AM
Ps-Crank on this pal!!!
Post by: Charles on June 21, 2006, 07:44:21 PM
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