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justink

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Different Drilling Patterns?????
« on: July 14, 2006, 08:40:50 AM »
Why do we drill balls other than stacked leverage(strongest drilling)?

Now before you fire back your hey dumb guy post. Just hear me out.

The ball companies make a ball with a certain core and coverstock to do something. Be it hook early, hook late, or not hook. Whatever. By drilling a ball anything but stacked you are just tailoring the ball to the reaction you want. Understandable, but why not buy a ball that is supposed to react that way. I don't have a single ball drilled stacked, but I am now wondering why. I don't know the full capability of the balls I own, why though? An I afraid they are going to hook too hard for me.

I guess I am just trying to come to a conclusion of why I should drill my next ball anything but stacked. Again if this is stupid just don't reply and let the post die. Thank you all.
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kmanestor22

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Re: Different Drilling Patterns?????
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2006, 02:42:28 PM »
i used to drill everything with the pin at 1:30 and a little side weight.  I would just use a different ball to get a different reaction.  That was before I learned about how many options are available to fine tune ball reaction.  Some coverstock/core combinations work better with different drillings.  As for stacked leverage being the "strongest" drilling, I think you've been misled.  Stacked drilling provides the strongest backend reaction due to the maximum flare.  There are many drilling that I personally feel are "stronger" because they get the ball rolling earlier.  Also, max flare isn't always a good thing.  If I drilled a ball designed to get 7" of flare and stacked it, it would flare so much that the ball would eventually roll over a previous oil ring on the ball and defeat the purpose.  Then you throw in weight holes and surface adjustment to tweak the reaction.  Stacked leverage is the right drilling for many bowlers and many lane conditions, but the same could be said for putting the pin below the ring finger and kicking the cg out.  It is up to the professional driller to help the customer make the right decision based on there game and lane conditions.  Furthermore, most drillers will follow-up and make any adjustments needed, not just tell them to buy a stronger/weaker ball.
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Re: Different Drilling Patterns?????
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2006, 09:04:47 PM »
This is why you just buy balls, hope they fit in a certain spot, adjust the surface until they do, and then just throw the thing and see what happens.

Too much mumbo jumbo about "5 1/4 patrick leonardovincho drilling flip leverage." Just find something you and others think will work, try it, and it probably will (or might require slight surface adjustmants)
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Re: Different Drilling Patterns?????
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2006, 09:18:43 AM »
There are voices in my head that question my reasoning when drilling a new ball.
It's human nature to question ourselves.

The fact that BTM uses "Stacked Leverage for the Tweener's strong model" does make you wonder! I know it is a "Cookie Cutter" drilling layout solution that might and would have mass appeal and success. But remember it is only a "Strong Drilling Model" that they are trying to show. Notice that the Cranker and Stroker don't use the "Stacked Leverage" model, because they too are trying to optimise the results based on the bowler's criteria. I usually read between the lines here, and approximate between the Cranker and Tweener model to get an idea of a starting point for a customized drilling layout solution based on my release and reaction that I would like to see. (other words: Why I am buying this particular ball with the reaction based drilling layout that I'm choosing?)

... based on my PAP, Axis tilt, and Axis Rotation, and Professional Driller advice, the voice always says "NO Stacked Leverage drilling - will be too strong and you will regret it!"  

Well, you see I think most of us think we are much more wise about the "Reaction we think we want" then any proposed cookie cutter drilling.  In fact: I think most bowlers want a bet on their drilling hoping and praying for the reaction they want to see which tend to lead to strange and mathematical geometrical layout configurations.  (ie 4.25 X 2.75 65 degrees MB/ with weight hole to control spin time)

Secondly, this is an identity thing, a special drilling tailored for our own personal bowling style.  We want to feel some sort of control about the outcome of the drilling.  A guesstimate or estimate.  Which most times after seeing the reaction of the pin configuration think woulda, coulda, shoulda alternative drilling's.  Yeah, drill up another one of those, ball whore!

Out of 15 balls so far - I have only 3-4 regrets to admit.  But several were bandaged up with surface changes and weight holes. (which this board was of great service and help!) Hopeful educated experimentation is the price to satisfactory results.


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Re: Different Drilling Patterns?????
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2006, 09:53:01 AM »
I think, finally, it is a matter of taste. Personally, I wonder why people WANT a leverage stacked drilling. They probably get it beacsue they tell the driller to "make it hook" or "go long and snap" - more than the last one. Maybe it is just for the big hook in itself, and because not-so-ambitous-bowlers rather buy a new ball than invest some money in a coach for a good release? The big hook is too tempting, and if you do not know or try anything else, why change?

I have witnessed bowlers in league cursing their balls "Oh, that's too strong, it is supposed to be a dry lane ball". Yeah, if you drill it stacked leverage, no wonder you won't get it to the pocket at all and leave funny splits...

I only have one stacked leverage ball in my arsenal, and it is only for extreme oily conditions. If this one (Blade Particle, 800 grit) does not move, nothing will... I rather follow the philosophy to check my arsenal and the recations at hand, then decide if I see a gap, and then I choose a ball with the matching basic specs (coverstiock, RG, RG diff, core design) and ask my ball driller (who has the final word, I fared very well with his suggestions sso far) to set the ball up for a specific job, not just to "hook". Rather a brainy approach
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