My AP is pretty much coming to the end of its useful life and I want a ball that is stronger in the back but will give me a good length also.

I have a friend who has the B-R-B and it works very well at our centre. Thats why I was wondering what comparisons anyone has between the two as I dont really want the same as him.

Is there really that much difference between the 2 or are they both just simply awesome?

Also can someone post the BTM numbers for length, shape and overall hook for the B-R-B as I have them for the WCR and Id like to know the differences they found. Or can someone post me the link to the updated Ball Spreadsheet that Ken Clay made.
Thanks everyone.
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Big/R Bang BTM numbers:

RG 4.9
Diff/Flare 5.6
Torque 7.5
Length 16
Back End 16.5
Total Hook 49

Thanks to hiflush for the numbers.

Thanks to charlest and urbanshaft for your thoughts.

charlest thank you for doing the in depth work as I know you always do. Thats helped make me feel a little better on both balls. I think both should suit what Im looking for.

The Big-R-Bang may be the best choice but I dont think the WCR would be a bad one either. Ball speed off my hand is around 19mph and rev rate is 290 to 320.I do have a lowish axis and a more end over end release though.

Once again many thanks to all.



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Happy go lucky bowler from the UK.
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I obviously haven't watched you bowl, but at least in theory, my stats are somewhat similiar to yours, and I have to tell you, I love the World Class, although I must admit that I make fun of it's looks.  Old school Blue with Gold lettering-- I call it the Grandpa Ball.  

The ball is very consistent, strong and picks up a roll, but be aware that like a lot of LM's stronger stuff, definitely needs oil up front.  For me, it hooks up well with end over end rev, too, is nice and clean on the backend, no overeaction on tricky shots.  It has also lasted F-O-R-E-V-E-R for me-- 1000 games or more with no resurface, with some loss in reaction, but not as much as other balls I've thrown in the past that had to be retired earlier-- no ball death, and no loss of carry.

I suck, but I am learning and taking lessons.  I shot a 246 with semi-fried heads after league tonight with the WC.  My high game, a 277, was with this ball, including some blind luck on some shots carrying too close to the nose, wallshots, etc.  The ball straight out out-carries anything I've ever thrown.

I haven't thrown the B-R-B, but I'm sure it's a great ball, heck, for my money, everything I've ever thrown by Legends/LM has been great.  Are you looking for an angular reaction or smooth consistent roll?  How much oil does the ball need to handle?  That's what I would ask myself.
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