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Hand of God

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Big R Bang ... not long... not good
« on: October 21, 2006, 06:51:59 PM »
My Big R Bang drilled stacked is as strong as my Terminator, and actually has a hard time getting through the heads... and hooks early... i'm very unhappy with it....

oh well
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Terminator - Stacked - Heavy to medium oil
Big Bang - Stacked - Medium oil
Buzz - 1:30 Label - Medium to light oil
XXXL - Stacked -  Spare ball

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Re: Big R Bang ... not long... not good
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2006, 08:08:25 AM »
Sand it to 2000 grit and then re-polish it.
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Re: Big R Bang ... not long... not good
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2006, 08:10:41 AM »
"HoG",
 I believe that I know why you're unhappy with it; I had an extensive chat with Joe at AllStarBowling yesterday about the layout of the BRB that he's gonna drill up for me and he stated that a stacked leverage layout, which maximizes the flare potential of a ball, would cause this ball to hit weak on the backends becuase it would have essentially "burned up" and lost it's energy going into the pocket.
 FYI, Galen Gentry recommended to me a 4 x 4 layout with the pin above the fingers and the cg ending up around the midline (almost a label layout); however, the 3 1/2" pin that I chose didn't allow that layout becuasee the cg ended up in the thumb quadrant, so Joe recommended a 3 x 4 layout for it. I'll be getting back with Galen to get his thoughts on it and to get a new recommendation.
 I'm not sure if a balance hole for your ball will be enough to change the ball's reaction, but I'd check with you pro shop and see what he thinks about it; it sounds as if you need to tone down the early reaction of your BRB ... maybe something that will give it some more "push" down the lanes, tighten up those flare rings, and save the reaction for the backend.
BTW ... don't feel too bad about it; soemtimes we just choose a bad layout that doesn't match up with our style and the ball's potential ... I've had 2 or 3 of those myself and simply sold the ball and tried again with a different layout.
Keep me/us informed, OK ???
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Re: Big R Bang ... not long... not good
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2006, 08:31:38 AM »
What the hell kind of drilling is "stacked"? Tells people absolutely nothing about the Pin is on the ball.
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Re: Big R Bang ... not long... not good
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2006, 11:09:36 AM »
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What the hell kind of drilling is "stacked"? Tells people absolutely nothing about the Pin is on the ball.
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Re: Big R Bang ... not long... not good
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2006, 05:33:57 PM »
I like what charlest said; garyusa1 ... did you catch that ???
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Re: Big R Bang ... not long... not good
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2006, 07:21:58 PM »
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What the hell kind of drilling is "stacked"? Tells people absolutely nothing about the Pin is on the ball.
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I think most understand what is meant by a "stacked leverage" drilling. It is normally the strongest reacting drilling you can put on a ball.
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Re: Big R Bang ... not long... not good
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2006, 12:00:32 AM »
what i can't figure out is that my Big Bang seems to go longer and be alot smoother than my Big R bang... with the same drill on the same condition.
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Terminator - Stacked - Heavy to medium oil
Big Bang - Stacked - Medium oil
Buzz - 1:30 Label - Medium to light oil
XXXL - Stacked -  Spare ball

Big R Bang - Coming soon!

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Re: Big R Bang ... not long... not good
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2006, 12:47:27 AM »
already posted this last week and changed it too 2000 and brunswick high gloss, now a more useable ball.

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Re: Big R Bang ... not long... not good
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2006, 01:17:43 AM »
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Anne Marie drilled the Big R Bang and put the Pin 4 1/4 from the pap, slight above the fingers, and put the c.g 4 1/2 from the pap slightly above the midline, no weight hole. On a medium lane condition, with some dry boards to the right, this ball and layout gave her good length and a very strong backend reaction to start. As the lane broke down, (heads) she weaken her wrist position and moved right and went more up the boards with great success


In the same house on the same conditions that Anne Marie is in I find the same thing with my World Class R drilled 3 3/4 x 3 3/4 with Pin beside RF and CG just a wee bit below mid-line and a weight hole.

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Re: Big R Bang ... not long... not good
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2006, 07:27:38 AM »
Good stuff, Pat !!! Thanx for your time and for your input ... and for backing up what I had stated in my earlier thread, albeit with less detail than you did.
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Re: Big R Bang ... not long... not good
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2006, 11:45:59 AM »
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Legend balls having symetical cores which gives some room for error in layouts.  


Pat, after struggling big time the last two plus years with balls that have assymetric cores with strong MB's regardless of the drilling and surface prep, I have found a home with the Legends/Lanemasters balls and their symetrical cores along with the covers that are used on them. I have also found these balls to hit harder, carry better and leaving way less 10 pins than the past balls I have been using from other companies with both symetrical and assymetrical cores. This is the way it has worked for me. I can't speak for others.

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Re: Big R Bang ... not long... not good
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2006, 01:31:25 PM »
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Legend balls having symetical cores which gives some room for error in layouts.  


Pat, after struggling big time the last two plus years with balls that have assymetric cores with strong MB's regardless of the drilling and surface prep, I have found a home with the Legends/Lanemasters balls and their symetrical cores along with the covers that are used on them. I have also found these balls to hit harder, carry better and leaving way less 10 pins than the past balls I have been using from other companies with both symetrical and assymetrical cores. This is the way it has worked for me. I can't speak for others.

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Brick,
That's exactly why I went to Lanemasters...I had no success with Assymetrical cores. I found more success with symetrical cores...I haven't thrown LL much, but I like I what I see.
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Laybzz74

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Re: Big R Bang ... not long... not good
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2006, 03:36:31 PM »
Same here regarding more success overall with symmetrical cores ... and especially with "L/LM" equipment !!!
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LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM (Email and PayPal addy)
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Hand of God

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Re: Big R Bang ... not long... not good
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2006, 06:56:19 PM »
sanded it to 2000 .. used brunswick high gloss...

gonna wait and see
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Balls for this winter season:

Terminator - Stacked - Heavy to medium oil
Big Bang - Stacked - Medium oil
Buzz - 1:30 Label - Medium to light oil
XXXL - Stacked -  Spare ball

Big R Bang - Coming soon!