Post by: DukeHarding on October 22, 2006, 02:55:07 PM
thanks....
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Post by: Hand of God on October 23, 2006, 12:01:41 AM
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Balls for this winter season:
Terminator - Stacked - Heavy to medium oil
Big Bang - Stacked - Medium oil
Buzz - 1:30 Label - Medium to light oil
XXXL - Stacked - Spare ball
Big R Bang - Coming soon!
Post by: DukeHarding on October 23, 2006, 12:18:01 AM
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Might as well buy a NEw Standard,, because thats what you'll have
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Balls for this winter season:
Terminator - Stacked - Heavy to medium oil
Big Bang - Stacked - Medium oil
Buzz - 1:30 Label - Medium to light oil
XXXL - Stacked - Spare ball
Big R Bang - Coming soon!
I have a NS undrilled.
Seriously, the BP will react like the NS at 2000 grit Abralon?
Thanks for the info.
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Post by: Laybzz74 on October 23, 2006, 03:38:34 PM
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Post by: DukeHarding on October 23, 2006, 05:23:49 PM
No polish.
It will be interesting to see how it reacts.
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Post by: Laybzz74 on October 23, 2006, 10:46:45 PM
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Post by: DukeHarding on October 24, 2006, 05:58:55 PM
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Me too, Duke ... please post your thoughts afterwards.
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4000 grit w/o polish ball was way to strong.
I'm just converting over to no grips...I think with grips the ball would have worked better...I'm having a hard time adjusting to bowling "bareback".
I kept the ball at 4000 and put a coat of polish on it today...see what happens?
The Straight Flush is another (later) post.
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Post by: Laybzz74 on October 24, 2006, 06:36:01 PM
FYI ... if you check my profile, my Big Bang and my Terminator are BOTH at 4000 grit abralon and polished; both were too strong OOB to use (I almost got rid of the BB until I saw the post about polishing it, and now it's great. My Black Pearl is very strong on the backends too, and I need medium oil at the VERY LEAST to be able to use it.
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Post by: DukeHarding on October 24, 2006, 06:54:30 PM
It's one of the stronger balls I've rolled in awhile.
I'm going out tomorrow, to a center that has some decent oil, and see what the ball does.
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Duke,
FYI ... if you check my profile, my Big Bang and my Terminator are BOTH at 4000 grit abralon and polished; both were too strong OOB to use (I almost got rid of the BB until I saw the post about polishing it, and now it's great. My Black Pearl is very strong on the backends too, and I need medium oil at the VERY LEAST to be able to use it.
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"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
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Post by: Brickguy221 on October 24, 2006, 10:00:41 PM
Am I wrong here in my thinking? I'm open to others thoughts on this.
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Post by: charlest on October 24, 2006, 11:36:41 PM
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After reading the BTM review on this ball, I am now a bit leery of it and may back off getting one. Right now I have an Absolute Inferno (which I like) that fits between my World Class R and World Class P. I was wanting to change to all L/LM balls because these balls seem to work so well for me and I love their hit and carry, but just basing on the BTM numbers and the L/LM charts, I fear this ball may be too strong and too close to the World Class P for that position.
Am I wrong here in my thinking? I'm open to others thoughts on this.
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It's probably at least as strong as the WC, but its path to the pocket will be different. It seems so far to be very much a control type of ball.
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Post by: Laybzz74 on October 25, 2006, 12:01:18 AM
I agree !!! Had a 758 with mine tonight ... 290 the first game, and a 4 pin in the first cost me a "3".
Jim,
I concur with Charlest ... a control-type ball, albeit a strong one; the pearl cover gives it good length and the light particle load gives it "teeth" for the backends ... this ball "almost" seems to act like a reactive for me.
I LOVE THIS BALL !!!
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Post by: Brickguy221 on October 25, 2006, 01:06:37 AM
Then again, Galen told me the Black Pearl is very versatile. I do know that in instances like today on the Synthetic lanes, I was needing a bit more length on the WCP. I tried the WCR and of coarse it got good length and the length I like, but wasn't strong enough on the back end on those synthetic lanes. The Absolute Inferno was in between the two balls in length and seemed to come into the pocket strong, but would not carry a 10 Pin no matter what angle I played or what speed I threw. (I had the same problem with the AI Sunday on wood lanes whereas both L/LM balls seemed to strike at will) Maybe a ball like the Black Pearl would have worked if it would have gotten close to the length of the WCR as I am sure it would have turned the corner on the back end where the WCR wouldn't. I need to "knock on wood" when I say this, but for what ever reason, I seem to leave very-very few 10 pins plus get way more strikes with L/LM balls.
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Post by: Laybzz74 on October 25, 2006, 01:28:50 PM
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"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
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Post by: Brickguy221 on October 25, 2006, 02:34:32 PM
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Jim, There is a BP out there with your name on it ...
Robb, thats what I am hoping.
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Post by: Laybzz74 on October 25, 2006, 02:36:41 PM
Get that "matched up" layout on it that I'm always referring to and I swear that you'll fall in love with it as I have !!!
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"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
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Post by: DukeHarding on October 26, 2006, 12:34:06 PM
Started at about 2 pm, shot 7 games with the Black Pearl (4000 grit/polished), nice medium oil, easy lefty shot. (I'm still getting used to no grips.)
Shot 239-229-225-245-219-268-209.
I've never rolled a ball that carried the 7 pin like the BP...My bowling buddy, who I've bowled with for 15 years or so, was very impressed with the ball, and hard it hit.
I met up with Chitown, at about 8 pm...and bowled on the left end of the house, after 2 leagues, bowled. (Chi cleaned my clock using his Raw Doom.)
I had the BP and the StrFlsh with me...I was caught in between.
I tried the BP for 3-4 games. There just wasn't enough oil lwft on the lanes for the ball.
I ended up using the SF outside 5, and averaged 189 for 10 games.
The BP definitely needs oil...anyone who rolls one knows, that by now.
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Post by: charlest on October 26, 2006, 01:15:33 PM
Maybe there's hope for me yet ... (I figured it was an oiler.)
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Post by: Laybzz74 on October 26, 2006, 02:40:13 PM
BTW, BTM this month has a review for the BRB and the Black Pearl ...
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Post by: DukeHarding on October 26, 2006, 02:46:57 PM
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So, DUke, you were able to use it on "medium" oil?
Maybe there's hope for me yet ... (I figured it was an oiler.)
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
It was a medium oil shot. So far I haven't had much luck on drier conditions.
I'm trying it tonight, on a beat-up house shot...plus my Straight Flush which is now 500 grit with 2 coats of polish. SF is a good spare ball so far on oilier conditions.
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Post by: Laybzz74 on October 26, 2006, 02:59:11 PM
IMHO and FWIW, I believe that The BUZZ is better suited for a "beat up house shot" OR an Absolute Power (the AP is what I use for those conditions - see profile). I say this because I think that the BP will be too strong for that condition ... let us know how you fare, OK ???
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"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
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Post by: DukeHarding on October 27, 2006, 01:46:14 PM
Bingo!
Last night I tried the BP in my Thursday league.
Lots of carrydown dry outsides...miss outside it's through the nose.
We have a lot of 5 pin splits on the non-condition they give us. Last night I counted 18 splits with the 5 pin (5-7, 5-10, 5-8-10), for 10 bowlers, 3 games...I leave s many 5-10s on this shot, tha I'm at about 85% picking the spare....
Anyhow the BP burnt up on the shot, the Straight Flush was fine unless it hit carrydown and would skid...I tried my track Equation, which hooked early...
I shot 166-166-197...197 with a VOIT houseball I picked off the rack and threw straight at the pocket.
I'm picking up my New Standard, NS2, and Big Kahuna next Wednesday...don't know if they will handle the non-shot and better.
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Duke,
IMHO and FWIW, I believe that The BUZZ is better suited for a "beat up house shot" OR an Absolute Power (the AP is what I use for those conditions - see profile). I say this because I think that the BP will be too strong for that condition ... let us know how you fare, OK ???
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**** Official "L/LM ball junkie" ****
Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters equipment !!!
"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM (Email and PayPal addy)
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"A Great Bowler thinks only of what's in Front of Him."
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Post by: Laybzz74 on October 27, 2006, 02:37:37 PM
Please provide insights and feedback on the NS and NS2 ... same core as the Black Pearl, different covers.
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"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM (Email and PayPal addy)