Author Topic: TR coverstock successes ??? (Read 1770 times)

Laybzz74 · « **on:** April 06, 2010, 12:33:49 PM »

What grits and/or polish combinations have you had success with ... and what layouts with those coverstocks. Thanx !!!
BTW ... mine is OOB and has a stacked leverage layout.
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Graaille · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2010, 09:49:28 PM »

Well my rev-challenged self does well with OOB surface, but I've got mine set up w/a 50/3.25/25 layout.

charlest · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2010, 10:40:27 PM »

(Hoping you mean Terminator Rebellion, otherwise, I''ll feel very silly having written all this):

Mine is surprisingly mellow.
Drilling: pin under center of bridge, CG kicked out about 1" from grip center, and slightly below midline. No weight hole.

Stock surface handles medium oil very smoothly. I use it at P2000 grit matte mostly (that''s just barely smoother than the stock 800 grit US/CAMI). Just returned it to that surface.

Tried it at P2000 + Lanemasters Factory Finish polish.
At this grit it is a light to medium-light oil ball and very allergic to carrydown. I am surprised at how much skid I get with this surface, and how little oil I need to use it, but it retains its smooth arc at the breakpoint.

Not sure if I''m bowling on too little or too much oil, but the hitting power is much less than any other Lm/L ball for me. As a result I have used it very little, other balls being better at light and medium oil and better hitting. I mean it''s not terrible, maybe slightly above average.

I think I tried it at P4000 grit but not for very long, as I can''t even remember its performance at that grit.

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Edited on 4/6/2010 10:41 PM

LaneHammer20 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 07, 2010, 09:37:48 AM »

I am as interewsted as you Robb. I have a TR myself that I have not drilled yet, because there are so many different experiences floating around with this ball. Some are asying it is quite aggressive, making a good step dwon from the original. Others like charlest are saying it is very mellow, and just abnormally weak and unpredicatable.

I am so undecided on how I would lay it out by the way things are being said about it, i may never get a chance to drill it.
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charlest · « **Reply #4 on:** April 07, 2010, 10:37:37 AM »

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I am as interewsted as you Robb. I have a TR myself that I have not drilled yet, because there are so many different experiences floating around with this ball. Some are asying it is quite aggressive, making a good step dwon from the original. Others like charlest are saying it is very mellow, and just abnormally weak and unpredicatable.

I think you misinterpreted my post slightly. With the stock cover it was perfectly good for its intended oil pattern: medium oil. Not weak at all. My ball has a 5" pin to PAP for me.

Only when I put polish over a P2000 grit surface did I find it oddly weak, which wasn't terrible, if you can use a ball for lesser oil.

I found its hitting power less than Lanemasters standard, which is quite high. It was still greater than average.
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ToddM · « **Reply #5 on:** April 07, 2010, 11:22:23 AM »

i have my tr drilled with the standard "length" drilling on it that is shown in the drilling layouts that comes with their equipment. i've left it in oob condition. this has worked well for me... hits just as hard as the others that i have. shot an 800 set with it..

right now i have it on standby as i've been using my black diamond. love this ball too. here lately i've been starting with my black diamond, make a few adjustments through the night, put it away and break out my hornet. finish the night with my hornet... it's been a really good 1,2 punch for me...

anyway, i've been finding that the tr has been a hit or miss with people.. it is a hit with me... but then ymmv...

Pat Patterson · « **Reply #6 on:** April 07, 2010, 11:42:08 AM »

Here''s my .2 cents worth concerning the Terminator Rebellion. The ball came 15-1 lbs, 3-5/8 TW and a 3-3/8" PIN and was laid-out 35* X 3 3/8" X 35* which placed the Pin above/RT of RF(about an 1-1/2" above), with a WH 2 1/4" past the VAL, 1" down.

The ball reacts as advertised, being longer than the Original Terminator I thought. I don''t throw too many Solid Reactives much anymore, and this was the last one I owned.

Pin carry is excellent as is the case with all LM balls. OOB this ball can cover alot of boards and is usable for me on all but drier side of medium, but with a heavy dose of polish I could make it a usable piece on the drier stuff, although not the extreme side of dry.

I did put a light polish over the stock finish using Legends Factory polish and the ball really came to life when encountering dry.

Excellent ball..................In my Opinion

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LaneHammer20 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 07, 2010, 12:49:41 PM »

I guess I will put a little stronger layout than normal. Maybe something like 4.5 from PAP quite a bit above fingers. I have been doing very well with pins about 1 inch or so above the fingers. My Xtreme and XS have the same drill 5.5 x 5 and they are both killer pieces.

I am looking to make this my benchmark ball out of my LM stuff. That was the intentions for my XS power, but that ball turned into a skid flip monster of a ball.

I am definitly using this ball as a test ball before going out and drilling my original Terminator i have sitting NIB, don't want to screw that one up.

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charlest · « **Reply #8 on:** April 07, 2010, 12:59:02 PM »

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I guess I will put a little stronger layout than normal. Maybe something like 4.5 from PAP quite a bit above fingers. I have been doing very well with pins about 1 inch or so above the fingers. My Xtreme and XS have the same drill 5.5 x 5 and they are both killer pieces.

I am looking to make this my benchmark ball out of my LM stuff. That was the intentions for my XS power, but that ball turned into a skid flip monster of a ball.

I am definitly using this ball as a test ball before going out and drilling my original Terminator i have sitting NIB, don't want to screw that one up.
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I'd say based on its ball reaction at the breakpoint and the way its stock surface reacts to medium oil, this ball is the epitome of a benchmark for the average revs, average ball speed bowler. If I hadn't mellowed out my ball's reaction with such a long pin, I might have been more happy with it, but you take your best shot at the drilling.
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