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Speedyfeet

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Carrydown
« on: October 18, 2007, 11:01:22 PM »
what ball should I get to handle light to burnt heads with spotty carrydown my hornet does not like it

 

charlest

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Re: Carrydown
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2007, 10:08:10 AM »
The next strongest ball is the Buzz, Buuuutttt it all depends on the current ball's drilling, where AND how you're playing and the area of the carrydown. 99 times out of 100 it's easiest to just go around the carrydown rather than tryign another ball. Remember the new ball still has to clears the heads and midlane with enough energy. SO depending on what you're facing the next strngest ball may be too early and too strong to clear those heads. It's all a balancing act.
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Speedyfeet

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Re: Carrydown
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2007, 10:12:51 AM »
I play on a league that has a league before it and they all use plastic balls and play straight down the lane and I find that the reaction is not there I use the big r bang and it starts hooking to soon and no power than I use the hornet and it starts hook but then it hits the carry down and doesn't keep going I'm a new bowler and I have alot of lane masters ball what should I change on them to help me

shelley

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Re: Carrydown
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2007, 10:27:07 AM »
What about something that's early and continuous but still has a weaker cover to keep it from burning up in the dry heads?  A BRB or Buzz drilled pin-axis?  The weaker cover helps get through the heads and the layout helps it roll through the carrydown.

Probably you won't be able to swing the ball much, you'll have to go pretty straight.

If you don't want to to do that, I agree with Charlest, you need to go around it and find some oil to the inside.  Maybe a real tight line from inside, one that never gets right of, say, 12.

I hate bowling on lanes like that, I have a similar problem.  Sometimes you get lanes that have been used all day and weren't re-oiled before league.  Sometimes the opposing team is the "plastic drunks" that throw plastic over every board at every possible angle.  First game's ok but you get five of them on a team and they'll destroy the shot and don't care one lick.

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charlest

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Re: Carrydown
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2007, 06:11:59 PM »
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I play on a league that has a league before it and they all use plastic balls and play straight down the lane and I find that the reaction is not there I use the big r bang and it starts hooking to soon and no power than I use the hornet and it starts hook but then it hits the carry down and doesn't keep going I'm a new bowler and I have alot of lane masters ball what should I change on them to help me


If the Big-R-Bang starts hookign too soon, then every other ball (not just in Lanemasters selection) will probably be too strong, other than the Hornet (and similar balls).

99% of plastic ball throwers throw down the middle. So, I can only presume you're playing a breakpoint around 8 - 10 board (not target, but BREAKPOINT!).
Again, I suggest getting the ball out to around 4 or 5 board at the BREAKPOINT.
Use the same line with the Hornet or go deeper to find enough oil for the BRB to clear the heads (and not hook early) and still get the ball out to the 4 or 5 board.

The only other option I see is a polished particle that will get into the hook & roll portion of the skid/hook/roll scenario, before it hits the carrydown area. This is or can be a very tricky piece of work. And it can be expensive if the ball does not work.

The safest solution is to go around the carrydown.
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Speedyfeet

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Re: Carrydown
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2007, 08:41:06 PM »
thanks I tried going out to 5-4 board but then the hornet would start coming back then quit I have to pick up my bp tomorrow I have alot of lane masters so I may try a polished particle.  I play at this place Mon and Thurs and I have 35pins different in leagues why do some ball just make a strong move all the time like the Hammer balls I'm the only  L a n e m a s t e r  user in my city. I have to drive to the states for them

charlest

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Re: Carrydown
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2007, 09:00:11 PM »
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thanks I tried going out to 5-4 board but then the hornet would start coming back then quit



It's probably really dry out there.

If you willing to change the surface of the hornet, its stock is probably the same as the other polished Lanemasters balls: 800 grit sanding plus heavy dose of Legends polish (a non-abrasive polish). You can change the surface to somehting like 1500 or 2000 grit and then add a heavy dose of Legends polish. This will make the ball less aggressive: it will skid further and backend less. It will CHANGE the ball; I am not sure if you want to do this.

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I have to pick up my bp tomorrow I have alot of lane masters so I may try a polished particle.



But if the BRB, a highly polished resin can't make it through the heads, any particle ball might need to be "marblized" or have its surface made super fine, in order to clear the heads.
That is my concern.

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 I play at this place Mon and Thurs and I have 35pins different in leagues why do some ball just make a strong move all the time like the Hammer balls I'm the only  L a n e m a s t e r  user in my city. I have to drive to the states for them


Your profile says you also have a Hammer Doom.Have you tried usingthis to play outside, that 5 board breakpoint??
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Edited on 10/21/2007 3:05 PM
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Speedyfeet

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Re: Carrydown
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2007, 02:27:09 PM »
my friend gave me his black pearl that was set up for length and all backend and we polished it he said that should get out to the break point with easy and come back strong

charlest

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Re: Carrydown
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2007, 03:06:39 PM »
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my friend gave me his black pearl that was set up for length and all backend and we polished it he said that should get out to the break point with easy and come back strong


A lot of things "should"; you've got to try them to see if they will.

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