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gfh2a

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Is there a reason for this?
« on: October 20, 2007, 04:31:39 PM »
I picked up a sure strike off ebay drilled pin under bridge.  I had 2 big bangs drilled pin up 2000 grit and pin down under ring finger 800 grit.  My sure strike which is a pearl oob polished is much more consistent than the other two and also hooks about the same.  Same shot why would I get a better reaction from a weaker drilling? I really like the ball and would like some clue why this is a good ball for me and others weren't.  I sold the big bangs due to being so squirty/over under and lack of hitting power.  At the time I also saw a lot of people selling the same ball.  The ball is also 2 boards weaker than my 1000 grit epic and seems more continuous.


Any insite would be appreciated and no they were not burning up.

Thanks

George
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LowRG

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Re: Is there a reason for this?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2007, 12:52:03 AM »
If the Big Bang was being over/under and not hitting as hard as you like, I would simply say you were not using them on the correct conditions.  Particle balls, even Lane Masters ones need head oil and if its not there, some balls will let you know while others will skid through it like your Sure Strike with a weaker layout.  You say they are not burning up but I am willing  to bet that they were before you could even see it. In the first 5-10 feet of the lane.  A rolly ball with an early roll layout, and a particle cover NEEDS oil up front or you will get EXACTLY what you stated out of it on the last half of the lane.
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charlest

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Re: Is there a reason for this?
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2007, 08:42:43 AM »
I agree with X59.

The SS with the stock surface will skid and hook on less oil than the BBs sanded at all (2000 grit and 800 grit). That surface is meant for much more oil. I'd bet that was exactly the reason.

Lm/L coverstocks are fairly strong; sanding the polish off them makes then smoother BUT requires more oil, how much more depends on the ball and the bowler's release and ball speed and all those factors.

On the same lane surface and oil pattern, if the SS is working well, then the BB should be saved for higher amounts of oil, like other centers or for tournaments. Shame you got rid of them. I would have just polished them a little.

Oh, and remember, this has nothing to do with the drilling. Surface rules; drillings tweak the reaction. It's roughly a 70/30 ratio. If the type of surface and the finish are not even close, then no drilling will help.
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gfh2a

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Re: Is there a reason for this?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2007, 08:59:54 AM »
well I throw hard with not a lot of hand and with the big bangs on heavy heavy oil pba league.  They weren't burning up in fact they would get down about 35 feet and the oil would push them right(optical illusion I know.)Basically the big bang had a loop and the sure strike polished weaker drilled dosen't.  I almost always buy used so somebody else must have had similiar issues with the big bang.  I was just trying to find out why I didn't matchup well with the other for future ball purchases.

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charlest

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Re: Is there a reason for this?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2007, 03:04:58 PM »
George,

I've have to see what the BB, a true heavy oil ball, was doing before I would comment further.

FYI It's still not JUST the drilling.
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mrbowlingnut

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Re: Is there a reason for this?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2007, 04:51:24 PM »
The 16 lber i sold you i played up the boards with it all the time, i had no problem using all the time it just killed my lower back when i did.

The ball i sold you need head oil or did about nothing until i took it to sam's town on an easy pattern and amf lane beds. It had backend like a Storm Agent swinging it from 20-3 and back, i know the pattern is super high friction but it looked like a whole different ball.

Btw i still have 2 of these in 15 lber's the stacked layout one does about nothing but the pin over ring ball hooks plenty from the energy being retained.
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