Author Topic: Coverstocks on the Buzz Attack and the Xtreme Damage ??? (Read 4910 times)

Laybzz74 · « **on:** October 28, 2009, 06:13:07 AM »

... hearing and reading different things ...
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Graaille · « **Reply #16 on:** October 31, 2009, 10:31:16 PM »

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The Original Absolute Power, Satisfaxion and Masterpiece are excellent for medium to medium dry patterns. If they would bring those back. You wouldn't need a buzz.

Although I love all three of the pieces you just named, there's always room for The Buzz in my bag. All depends on your technique in playing the lanes.

charlest · « **Reply #17 on:** November 01, 2009, 06:21:13 AM »

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The Original Absolute Power, Satisfaxion and Masterpiece are excellent for medium to medium dry patterns. If they would bring those back. You wouldn''t need a buzz.

Although I love all three of the pieces you just named, there''s always room for The Buzz in my bag. All depends on your technique in playing the lanes.

I have to agree with Graaille on this one. I''ve had all thre of the above. The Buzz was a better all around ball for me.

The Masterpiece never covered medium-light for me. It was medium to medium-heavy oil ball for me. That ball had an almost particle pearl reaction for me - very strong.
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Edited on 11/1/2009 7:21 AM

Carlos Colon · « **Reply #18 on:** November 01, 2009, 07:48:04 PM »

How does the Xtreme Damage compare to the WCPP in terms of handling oil?

TM3 LMBowling · « **Reply #19 on:** November 02, 2009, 11:53:49 AM »

XD -vs- WCPP

The Covers are very similar in formulation. Should be able to perform well in the oil. I needed to polish mine for the Medium/medium Heavy oil. I am rev dominant so this might give you a little insight on why I need polish.

The whole reason for making the covers easier to manipulate. This ball is 2 piece and will last a very long time. But I wanted to make sure it will work for many lane conditions.

I see your point about the old Particles but it is not realistic in the future. Many of you know me and the fact of the matter is we can not use that particle except for special releases. It is too hard to cut in the lathe and our maintenance bills went way up when we used the old Particle. From a business standpoint it is better to make a more versatile cover and serve more people than destroy our equipment when manufacturing the older particle balls.

I hope this gives you a little insight as to why I am developing durable easy to manipulate covers. I'm not saying we will never use the old particle again it will just be in special releases.
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zorchman · « **Reply #20 on:** November 03, 2009, 06:56:58 PM »

if you dont like um send them to me ill keepem rolling for you.i have been bowling 4 nites a week ill squeeze them into one of those nites for you.
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dennis_michael · « **Reply #21 on:** November 04, 2009, 07:47:18 AM »

Tony,
I put my 5 y/o Terminator through a Revivor machine baking process at the proshop. I maintain it well, but was surprised to see the clear oil coming out.

When it was done, about half hour at 150*, wiped off twice, I rolled it. It lost its back end. It is now a medium lane ball.

Any recommendations?

charlest · « **Reply #22 on:** November 04, 2009, 09:37:53 AM »

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Tony,
I put my 5 y/o Terminator through a Revivor machine baking process at the proshop. I maintain it well, but was surprised to see the clear oil coming out.

When it was done, about half hour at 150*, wiped off twice, I rolled it. It lost its back end. It is now a medium lane ball.

Any recommendations?

FWIW -
Most procedures for this recommend sanding the ball dull, like around 400 grit, before using the Revivor. Seems the theory is it opens up the pores to let the oil out more easily. Afterwards, you bring the surface back up to spec.

Sometimes balls need more time than 30 minutes. It has probably soaked up a lot if it has lost some performance.
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killpins · « **Reply #23 on:** November 04, 2009, 11:12:07 PM »

i read many times that it's better to sand the ball to 400 and make a bath into a hot water instead of use a oven to extract the oil from the cover of a ball?
is The oven method good to reduce the longevity of the ball and his performances?
Any suggestions?

Graaille · « **Reply #24 on:** November 05, 2009, 03:34:52 PM »

They were probably referring to an ''at home oven'' that also doubles as a turkey burner towards the end of November. In that case - yes, a hot water bath is definately preferable - especially if you want to keep your ball for longer than a couple of months.

However a Revivor oven is the preferred way of extracting oil (as far as the ball manufacturers are concerned) due to it''s ability to maintain a consistant level of heat (120-130 degrees) over a long period of time.

And now that we''ve gotten wildly OT from the original post - back to any/all questions about the XD/BA please.

Edited on 11/5/2009 4:36 PM

Laybzz74 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 05, 2009, 04:44:00 PM »

TY !!!

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dennis_michael · « **Reply #26 on:** November 06, 2009, 06:34:50 AM »

Sorry to send this topic off. But, here is an update.

After practicing quite a few times with my Terminator on fresh oil, Its finish came back, the revs are up, and its again slamming the pins. My take is that I was on less oil than I needed. It was probably rolling out. I love oil.

Now back to the topic.

killpins · « **Reply #27 on:** November 06, 2009, 09:07:48 AM »

afitz
i'm agree with you about old legends, in fact my arsenal include only old lanemaster model but the first Buzz is very very good ball that it can cover many condition from light to medium + ( keep in mind own style, rev rate speed)
about the buzz attack i read the BTM review and the post on this site, probably it can be a good ball but my opinion is another : Legends are known for a 2piece construction and the movement on the lane and the impact is awesome, also the longevity of the ball vs another brand (with the same maintenance) is higher so the buzz attack is not a 2 piece construc so is life will be long or as an Ebonite ?
I wrote ebonite because i drilled many ebonite and i know their life (very good ball but 100% on first games and 50% or less after 50/60 games).
Now i had the opportunity to buy a pair of Big Kahuna, Masterpiece and Yeah Baby nib from a seller so i will extend my arsenal to others (probably) excellent old balls.

LaneHammer20 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 06, 2009, 11:46:23 AM »

There non 2 piece balls will still last way longer than any other companies. They still use the same grade A resin that doesn't allow oil to absorb as easily. Along with from the ones I have sen they are fairly thick. Like 5/8 to wqhat looks like 7/8.

I will say I am unsure they made the Buzz attack a non 2 piece since all the other in that line were truew 2 pieces. still looks like a awesome ball and one I will be picking up sooner or later.
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WHOS THAT · « **Reply #29 on:** November 06, 2009, 08:36:52 PM »

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There non 2 piece balls will still last way longer than any other companies. They still use the same grade A resin that doesn't allow oil to absorb as easily. Along with from the ones I have sen they are fairly thick. Like 5/8 to wqhat looks like 7/8.

I will say I am unsure they made the Buzz attack a non 2 piece since all the other in that line were truew 2 pieces. still looks like a awesome ball and one I will be picking up sooner or later.
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Author Topic: Coverstocks on the Buzz Attack and the Xtreme Damage ??? (Read 4910 times)

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