So he's a stroker with about 225 rpms and not much speed.

What do you need to be impressed? pins flying all over the place?
Watch a bowler with 19 mph and 150 rpms. The pins will fly more than the onein Buddies' video.

On the other hand, are you waiting to be impressed by one bowler, with one drill bowling at a house you will never bowl upon, on an oil pattern you will never face, before you will buy that ball? One video should NEVER, EVER convince you to buy a ball, not if you have one lick of common sense.
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The Conq's roll reminds me of the NS2 but with more "rev" on backend. As with all L/L equipment the coverstock responds well to surface adjustments, great bowler, nice, vid, and killer music.
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bill im also a lefty and we bowl very similar and i have a terminator
any way u can do maybe a short vid of the terminator vs conq?

I'm not really sure why some are calling this ball a dud?  

I just watched the vid and thought the ball rolled very well.  In fact, it looks like it would be a killer on a tougher condition because of how smooth it was coming out of the oil.

Another very good vid from Buddies!
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Aggressive, high load particle balls rarely "look" impressive on video.  They tend to be even arcing, strong rolling balls that don't "flip" hard enough on the backends to be impressive.

  When I watch a video of one of these type balls, I watch for the trasition in the midlanes and the energy retention of the ball once it encounters the drier conditions on the backends, not the "flippiness".

  I also watch for balls leaked into the dry early, to see if the ball "over reads" the dry or whether it tends to "smooth out" the wet/dry portions of the lane.

  If you want to be impressed by backends, watch some of the videos of balls designed to be that way, but when watching balls of this type, kepp in mind they have a purpose and watch to see it they fulfill that purpose.  You will be much more satisfied by what you find out.
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