Author Topic: Hornet (Read 3264 times)

charlest · « **on:** March 23, 2007, 02:34:49 PM »

This ball is looking more and more like a true light to medium-light oil ball. I've used twice in leagues so far, but not for all 3 games. Mine is drilled mild, approximately 4.5" x5.5", pin in ring finger, CG 1/2" negative side of grip center, 3" pin-CG distance. I have not touched the coverstock and, so far, see no reason to do so.

It gets good but not extreme length and seems to have a nice mild, very controllable arc at the breakpoint; still not a small hooking ball. It definitely needs some dry to make its turn, but no where near as much as the Straight Flush, which seemed to need mammoth amounts of dry.

If you're having trouble with 2nd shift lack of oil, I'd say this might be worth a try.

I don't have enough use to post anywhere near a full report/review yet.

As with other LM/L balls I wouldn't recommend drilling it too weak or with too high a pin (depending on your PAP, of course); remember the core is a weak one to begin with and allows the use of slightly stronger coverstocks (See "The Buzz",

). The more hand you have, the deeper you can play with this ball. I am strictly average.
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charlest · « **Reply #1 on:** March 28, 2007, 12:04:49 AM »

No further comments?

Are you people out there or just laying in wait?

Was I the only one with enough hand or with an early enough roll to need such a ball?

Anyone bowling on light oil??

Anyone bowling?

Anyone out there?

Mulder?

?? Scully?

?

HELLO?

??
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Edited on 3/28/2007 0:04 AM

Blindstag · « **Reply #2 on:** March 28, 2007, 04:31:27 AM »

Gidday Charlest,

Still waiting on my Hornet to arrive from the USA. Have emailed Galen re this ball, I want it as a skid flip ball and he has advised this (I hope he doesn't m,ind me quoting him):
<Quote> "If you are looking for skid/flip I would recommend placing the pin above
the fingers. If you are not comfortable with a 5 x 5 layout then go with
a 4 x 4.5 and you should be ok. Keep in mind that this ball was designed
for dryer patterns and because of the harder cover it will retain more
energy resulting in length with a fairly strong backend reaction. Be
careful with strong skid/flip layouts in a ball with a harder cover,
because it can very easily turn into an over/under reaction."</Quote>

He originally said that if it was drilled too strong I may fight the backends.

Any thoughts on what you have found charlest
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Imagination encircles the world ~ Albert Einstein

CHawk15 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 28, 2007, 10:01:05 AM »

This sounds like a ball that I could use especially when they only place 40 units of oil on the lanes and there's a big hole in the pattern by the end of the 1st game. I'm debating between this one and a Neptune, I'll probably end up trying both and keeping the one that works better.

charlest · « **Reply #4 on:** March 28, 2007, 10:38:58 AM »

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Gidday Charlest,

Still waiting on my Hornet to arrive from the USA. Have emailed Galen re this ball, I want it as a skid flip ball and he has advised this (I hope he doesn't m,ind me quoting him):
<Quote> "If you are looking for skid/flip I would recommend placing the pin above the fingers. ...."</Quote>

He originally said that if it was drilled too strong I may fight the backends.

Any thoughts on what you have found charlest
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Imagination is more important than knowledge - Knowledge is limited,
Imagination encircles the world ~ Albert Einstein

Mine is halfway in between: pin in ring finger - 4.5" from PAP.

The drier the lanes, the more potential for this ball to skid/flip. But unlike most skid/flip balls, the backend of the Hornet is not huge like the BRB and the WCR; it seems to my eyes to be the more controllable type. Make no mistake, it's not a small backend at all.
(Aside: My CG position might also be reducing the backend slightly (Unless you believe the Brunswick position that CG does notmatter.): it is 1/2" to the negative side of the grip center, making my drill a 4.5" x 5.5", with the pin 2 1/2" above the midline.)

The way I have had LM/L balls react for me, putting the pin higher does make their pearls more likely to produce a skid/flip reaction. I can produce a larger skid/flip reaction with my release; I just prefer not to have that on dry lanes, where the hook is hard to control anyway. In fact last night the ball did just that; so I stuck with my Venus which hooks more but being a light particle load, produces a more controllable hook. (Besides this house is famous for spotty conditions). I could have used the Hornet in the 3rd game, when things got D_R_Y!!!!, but we were winning and I didn't want to start fooling around with finding a new line.

Plus I have found that the Hornet does clear heads easier than any other LM/L ball I have had to date (I have not tried the Buzz; so I can't compare them.). It needs a little more dry than average before it makes the turn, making it, in my opinion, a better light oil ball than any other Lm/L ball to date.

Bottom Line, I think this is the ball they have been missing to complete their potential arsenal of covering all conditions.

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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

DukeHarding · « **Reply #5 on:** March 28, 2007, 11:27:40 AM »

charlest,
You forgot to mention it looks cool!
I may buy one just for looks alone.

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eBay Ball Auctions...

scotts33 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 28, 2007, 12:12:21 PM »

I have to say that The Buzz has been my go to ball for the past 2 weeks. As temps. and humidity in bowling centers climb and heads go I haven't been packing much for heavier hooking stuff and using The Buzz and an RG Mercury. If carry down is present I go around it steering it out more to the right to get around it. Carry problems from the angle <wrapped 10's> can ensue but that's the nature of the beast.

Hornet sounds like a nice ball. Think...I'll wait have a Vis. Pearl Ogre coming when they are released.
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charlest · « **Reply #7 on:** March 28, 2007, 12:28:22 PM »

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charlest,
You forgot to mention it looks cool!
I may buy one just for looks alone.
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eBay Ball Auctions...

Actually I'm not too keen on the color; it's too dark a green. I like the Kelly green of the polished Blue/Green Centaur (hardly any blue at all) and the green of the Nighthawk Revenge and the DT High Energy better.

But I've used an Intense Inferno and an Ogre, the clown balls of the bowling world. If I can stand those, I can stand anything, except a Pink Hammer ...
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scotts33 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 28, 2007, 12:48:31 PM »

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If I can stand those, I can stand anything, except a Pink Hammer ...

Jeff's gotta use manly balls. I love my Vis. "Magenta" DC Tour.

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Scott

Krumpy300 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 28, 2007, 12:54:28 PM »

Charlest,

How does it compare to the Sonic X Pearl??? One of my all-time favorites??

This ball looks like a good fit for my current league conditions.

Thanks.
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charlest · « **Reply #10 on:** March 28, 2007, 02:47:36 PM »

quote:
Charlest,

How does it compare to the Sonic X Pearl??? One of my all-time favorites??

This ball looks like a good fit for my current league conditions.

Thanks.
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Repetition is everything..

Hard for me to tell because I never got the Sonic-X to work for me. I tried two drills and one seemed like too much and the other seemed like too little. Roto-Grip doesn't seem to know how to make a weak coverstock. The new Neptune is a prime example; it gets thru the heads very easily but seems, in the hand of one person I know and saw, to have a HUGE backend.

I like the Hornet (so far) and my "precious" Blue/Green Centaur for light oil much better.
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Krumpy300 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 28, 2007, 03:18:59 PM »

Thanks Charlest.

Loved the Sonic X pearl, hated the Sonic Boom but loved the Super Sonic.

Enough about RG, sorry.

The Hornet and BGC sounds like a very good 1-2 punch for medium light to lighter conditions.
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charlest · « **Reply #12 on:** March 28, 2007, 03:34:09 PM »

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Thanks Charlest.

Loved the Sonic X pearl, hated the Sonic Boom but loved the Super Sonic.

Enough about RG, sorry.

No problem; discussion and sharing is what we're here for.

quote:

The Hornet and BGC sounds like a very good 1-2 punch for medium light to lighter conditions.
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Oddly, I haven't compared them yet for myself. I have one BGC at 2000 grit and one highly polished. Comparing them to the Hornet on a light oil pattern should be instructional. Wonder when I'll get a chance to do that ....
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Hand of God · « **Reply #13 on:** April 01, 2007, 01:08:06 AM »

Drilled my 15lb Hornet 1:30 4 inch pin for easy length and arc.. on dry

Ball gets down the lane easily on dry back ends, and makes a smooth arc... a great ball for broken down lanes.

It is easily the improvement over the Buzz
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Balls for this winter season:

Terminator - Stacked - Heavy oil
Big Bang - Stacked - Heavy to medium oil
Kong - 5 x 5 - Medium oil
Hornet - 4.5 x 6 Medium to Dry
White Dot - Spare ball

Edited on 4/1/2007 1:07 AM

robospare · « **Reply #14 on:** April 02, 2007, 01:08:56 PM »

Did not have early success with mine OOB.
Took it down to 600 and then polished it back up to a mirror finish and WOW.
Now when the lands break down I have a true Med-Dry ball that does not over react and still hit like the rest of my L/L line up.
Definately a keeper.

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