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OMalley

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Hornet
« on: May 07, 2008, 12:30:54 PM »
After nearly a twenty year hiatus, this past January I re-discovered my passion for this sport. The house I bowl regularly is dry, dry, dry...so this past weekend I had a hornet drilled for the conditions and wow, this ball carried nicely with a smooth arch to the pocket. I ended up rolling a 228, 235 and finishing with a 226...a strong ball from Lane Masters.
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Fender

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Re: Hornet
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2008, 04:03:59 AM »
Hornet is skid/flip for me. No control on fresh patterns. When there is carrydown (lots), then it's time for Hornet!
(High track, high revs)
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Krumpy300

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Re: Hornet
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2008, 07:18:44 AM »
Understood Jeff and thanks for the kind words

The BTM numbers of 17 length and 12 backend led me to believe it wouldn't be a snapper, I guess with the right drill it could be quite uncontrollable.

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charlest

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Re: Hornet
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2008, 07:36:43 AM »
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Hornet is skid/flip for me. No control on fresh patterns. When there is carrydown (lots), then it's time for Hornet!
(High track, high revs)


You drilled it far too strong. Either add some surface (like 4000 grit Abralon) or re-drill it with the pin around 5.5" pin to PAP and keep the pin low, OR, Heck, even put a Rico drill on it.
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charlest

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Re: Hornet
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2008, 07:38:53 AM »
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Understood Jeff and thanks for the kind words

The BTM numbers of 17 length and 12 backend led me to believe it wouldn't be a snapper, I guess with the right drill it could be quite uncontrollable.


Again, BTM is not a bible, just an educated suggestion. A lot depends on drilling and ball speed. For the avg ball speed, avg rev rate bowler, I'd put the Hornet numbers more like length 17.5, backend 14.
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Fender

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Re: Hornet
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2008, 01:21:23 AM »
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Hornet is skid/flip for me. No control on fresh patterns. When there is carrydown (lots), then it's time for Hornet!
(High track, high revs)


You drilled it far too strong. Either add some surface (like 4000 grit Abralon) or re-drill it with the pin around 5.5" pin to PAP and keep the pin low, OR, Heck, even put a Rico drill on it.


This is my hornet. Track goes something like that
http://picasaweb.google.com/piekash/Hornet#5256619664952723682
http://picasaweb.google.com/piekash/Hornet#5256518966026774882


Edited on 10/13/2008 7:50 AM
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charlest

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Re: Hornet
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2008, 08:31:05 AM »
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Hornet is skid/flip for me. No control on fresh patterns. When there is carrydown (lots), then it's time for Hornet!
(High track, high revs)


You drilled it far too strong. Either add some surface (like 4000 grit Abralon) or re-drill it with the pin around 5.5" pin to PAP and keep the pin low, OR, Heck, even put a Rico drill on it.


This is my hornet. Track goes something like that
http://picasaweb.google.com/piekash/Hornet#5256619664952723682


Yup, unless your PAP is very abnormal, you kind of max'ed out the reaction on your Hornet. When that ball sees enough dry, it's going to flip pretty darned hard, if my own experience in any gauge.

ALso I wonder if you're using it when the lanes are not really dry. It will be more skid/flip when there's medium-light oil rather than when there's dry - light oil. The drier lane condition can help the ball burn up some energy before hitting the breakpoint.

FYI That's a pretty long pin-CG distance too. What is it, 4" or so?
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Re: Hornet
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2008, 08:59:05 AM »
Last time my PAP was about 6 1/2" >
Now it's changed a bit. When throwing a ball, with no flare, track goes left or above left finger ang right from thumb.
When lines are pretty dry with lots of carrydown, then it's ok, but when there is wet/dry (fresh lines) then it's skid/flip, very angular. As I remember, Pin distance was about 5" or more from PAP.
Tried with several surfaces. from 600 to 2500. Now it's 800 + polish (in picture).
I was hoping for shorter patterns wit this ball, but still must use my urethane...
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