I am a avid fan of their older equipment, they lasted long, and although they were pretty hard to change surface, I liked it for some reason beacuse you knew you had a ball that lasted many of games with delivering amazing performance.

Ex. tried to resurface a Big Kahuna a little before taking it to my final grit of choice. Not much happened, the cover was just hard to change, kinda a bad thing to some, but you know it is bulletproof almost. I feel sorry for someone who has had to resurface any of the older diamond particles

These days, Tony (sales manager I am assuming) keeps talking about easily being able to change the covers and softer easier to manipulate particles than in the past. That sounds like a less durable cover like what was praised in the past, and less long lasting coerstock. Is this true?

Are they still using the same grade A resin as in the past as well. This is not a knock or anything. I have been picking up pieces left and right from LM/L,mostly being older pieces prior to Buzz Attck, and have loved every one of them. I have been somewhat skeptical of the newer pieces though. Someone from inside let us all know what the deal is now.n Are we getting the same long lasting, durable covers as the past. I feel others are probably wondering the same thing.
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What is sandbagging???

The newer stuff does not seem to have the same durable surface that the older balls did. I have the Buzz Attack, Black Diamond and the Xtreme Destruction. These covers are very easy to adjust, similar to Storm products.

I also have a lot of the older balls, and the difference is night and day. Although the Black Diamond is an extension of the Black Pearl line, the coverstock is not near as hard to change the surface. Depending on your perspective, that is good or bad.


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Nine in the pit with the Tenpin left standing. dooooh!!

Lanehammer and others,

I suggest you are, what they call, laboring under a misapprehension. The fact that WHEN their coverstocks are hard to resurface has little to do with the quality of their longevity and resistance to loss of performance by oil absorption.

That difficulty you see in the hardness of the coverstock when trying to resurface has ONLY to do with their use of industrial diamonds as the particles in their original particle balls. Diamonds are one the very hardest materials known to man. So far as I know only diamond pads can modify them. BUT the diamonds have little to do with the longevity that is a trademark of all Lanemasters balls. This has to do with 2 factors:

1. Their use of the highest quality resins in their coverstock (mostly imported from Europe), and
2. Their use of this coverstock around the core WITHOUT the use of fillers. This results in a very thick coverstock and in slightly higher basic RG values of around 2.55 and high.

Actually some of their plain resins are equally hard to modify without particles/diamonds in them. I found the Masterpiece''s coverstock EXTREMEly hard to change personally, even with Trizact. Their resins are nooriously slow to absorb oil PLUS since they have so much materal with which to absorb the oil, it takes a lot of use before a Lanemasters ball needs to have an oil extraction done to restore its performance.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Edited on 12/17/2009 6:03 PM