Post by: milorafferty on September 08, 2011, 12:46:24 AM
There is a new version of the original Buzz coming. It's an all new coverstock that is a particle hybrid and uses the Buzz core.
Post by: charlest on September 08, 2011, 09:24:02 AM
But the Sting Widow Maker also uses the Venom Hybrid particle coverstock, & also uses the Buzz core ????
Where is the difference?
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Post by: milorafferty on September 08, 2011, 09:33:36 AM
Now that is a great question. (I asked the same thing.) This is supposed to be a "new" coverstock that hasn't been used before. I think the Widow Maker is a Medium particle load, so maybe this is low? High?
I'll post more details here when I get them.
Post by: Pat Patterson on September 08, 2011, 10:38:35 AM
Buzz Premium Edition
RG: 2.549
Diff: 0.031
Flare: 4”
Core: Buzz
Color: Light Blue Pearl
Coverstock: Venom Hybrid Reactive Particle (Light Load Particle)
Finish: 1200 Matte
Sting Widow Maker
RG: 2.549
Diff: 0.031
Flare: 4.5”
Core: Buzz
Color: Violet/Black
Coverstock: Venom Hybrid (Medium Load Particle)
Finish: 800 Grit Scotch-Brite Pad
Venom Hybrid cover with the medium diff. core to create a predictable ball motion.
The solid part of the cover stabilizes the mid lane while the pearl assists in retaining energy for increased ball motion on the backend.
This provides the bowler with a great look throughout the patterns transitional phase.
Pat Patterson
Post by: charlest on September 08, 2011, 11:26:03 AM
Since the coverstocks are different compositions, they should not use the same name: Venom Hybrid, no matter how catchy the name is..
Pat,
Thanks for posting that:
Do you know if the Buzz Premium is also a solid/pearl particle combo like the Sting?
From what you wrote, the only difference seems the Buzz is a light load, while the Widow is a medium load (with slightly finer surface). Sure is confusing.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Edited by charlest on 9/8/2011 at 11:24 AM
Post by: Pat Patterson on September 08, 2011, 12:00:07 PM
Jeff,
Yes it is a solid/pearl mix. I believe the Sting Widow Maker was 70% solid, not sure what the Buzz Premium Edition is, percentage-wise.
Heard the ball is a killer.
Pat Patterson
Pat Patterson
Post by: JS on September 08, 2011, 03:02:03 PM
Here's a video of the new ball:
Post by: charlest on September 08, 2011, 08:34:01 PM
Doesn't make any difference, John. It's still too strong to use at Strike n Spare!!!
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Post by: JS on September 09, 2011, 08:16:51 AM
How did I know you would say that :)
Is the Ultimate Power under this new Buzz in terms of oil handling and hook?
Post by: charlest on September 09, 2011, 11:25:00 AM
Definitely, It's also under the old Buzz, as far as I know.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Post by: Pat Patterson on September 15, 2011, 03:31:26 PM
My Buzz Premium Edition arrive last friday along with the Blue Diamond, I have yet to drill them.
The Buzz Premium Edition look just like the Blue World Class, and the Blue Diamond is to shabby looking either.
Pat Patterson
Post by: Schwanstuker on October 07, 2011, 10:37:22 PM
Pat, could elaberate more on the Blue Diamond?
Anyone but the Cowboys!
Post by: Pat Patterson on October 08, 2011, 12:59:27 PM
The Blue Diamond is just the overseas version of the Black Diamond Particle Pearl. I only picked it up, when I called Lane Masters the other day and they asked if I was interested in it as it was the only one they had laying around. It is the original color scheme(Sapphire Blue/Black) that the BDPP was suppose to be opposed to the current color scheme (greenish-pearl).
Pat
Pat Patterson
Post by: Oily wan kenobi on October 15, 2011, 02:52:09 AM
The Buzz Premium was reviewed in the November edition of Bowling This Month along with the BDPP. Has anyone read the review(s) and willing to share?
Post by: Pat Patterson on October 16, 2011, 04:41:47 AM
Haven't received my copy yey, but will when it arrives.
Pat
Pat Patterson
Post by: SoMdBuzzsaw on October 18, 2011, 09:26:24 AM
I havent thrown the old Buzz, but my Ultimate Power, when I had it, hooked too much for my liking! It was very over/under for me honestly, I had found one used and bought it for drier lanes, but it would hook up early on me...just my observation is that the UP ,is that is much stronger than advertised
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Post by: Oily wan kenobi on October 18, 2011, 04:06:52 PM
I haven't had my Ultimate Power drilled up yet but I was intending to have it set up with the same layout as my Dynamic Power (stacked with the pin level with the RF for an earlier breakpoint). This was on the assumption that with the same core but less agressive cover it would be better suited to medium oil than the DP? Has anyone else had any experience with the UP? Pat is the only one to have left any feedback before now but there must be others using the UP? The ball's specs don't suggest that this is for dryer conditions.