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Ramtart

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Lanemasters/Legends Hornet - Your thoughts?
« on: May 01, 2008, 10:50:45 AM »
Hey Everyone,

I have been reading reviews on this ball and have a few friends that have this ball as well. Looking to possibly add this to my arsenal as my "bail out ball," or "backends hooking like crazy ball."

I am a High Tracker with a pap of 6" and am thinking of drilling the ball with a Long Pin to Pap placement (probably over the Middle finger with CG in my palm). I am just afraid that I'm going to kill it!

My intentions are to use it on the tougher patterns where the backends are just flying or when the lanes start to get pretty dry.

From what I'm hearing, it seems to blend the wet/dry pretty well.

Thanks for your help in advance!
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Re: Lanemasters/Legends Hornet - Your thoughts?
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2008, 07:33:54 PM »
yeah, it blends the backends really well.  I thought I'd see some drier sessions around here in the summer, but right now (with my hight track, low revs, and WRW/NAD like straightness) it's pretty much a spare ball for me with the wetter conditions I see around here.
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Re: Lanemasters/Legends Hornet - Your thoughts?
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2008, 10:49:36 PM »
Ram-a-lama-ding-dong,

The Hornet, like all Lanemasters balls, has a ton of backend, unless
a) your release or ball speed reduce that backend, or
b) you drill the backend out of the ball.

I have a 5x0 PAP and I drilled mine, pin in ring finger, CG 1/2" on the negative side of grip center. That makes it roughly 4.5" x 5.5" drilling. I just sold mine because the backend on dry lanes was almost uncontrollable.

The ball clears heads like nobody's business, but when it grabs the lane, it's "left turn, NOW! Clyde"

Your 6" PAP indicates a lot of roll and not much tilt. So you should be fine, THEORETICALLY! However I wouldn't go with a high pin; that will just make it flippier. A 5" - 5.5" pin to PAP should be fine. I wouldn't kick your CG out too far, because you don't want to kill the backend entirely: maybe a 3.5-4" CG-PAP distance. That core is deceptively strong, despite the numbers. My Buzz backends a ton and I have the surface smoothed out!

If I had to do it over again, I might have been inclined towards a 2"x5" drilling or a 5.5" - 6" x 3" drilling.

FYI like almost all Lanemasters balls, the cover is adjustable; don't be afraid to manipulate it, if necessary. A 2000 grit sanding followed by a high gloss shine helped mitigate my Hornet's backend, just not enough for me.

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Re: Lanemasters/Legends Hornet - Your thoughts?
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2008, 09:33:47 AM »
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Re: Lanemasters/Legends Hornet - Your thoughts?
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2008, 07:57:19 AM »
This is a incredible ball for second set conditions, lots of predictable backend motion.  This ball gives you the length you need to play the drier conditions, but when it makes it move, it moves with authority.  You need to be consistent with you ball speed, it gives you a sharp angle to the pocket, creating a high risk, high reward type of ball.  Lots of strikes, but mistakes are major splits.  Still, on 2nd and 3rd set type conditions, I was able to put up a 235 average with this ball, where as I couldn't break two with my WCR, WCPP, or Rebellion.

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Re: Lanemasters/Legends Hornet - Your thoughts?
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2008, 09:02:42 AM »
i have mine drilled weak using the suggested layout for low track players on the drill sheet. totally ignores the heads and acts like a urethane if there is light oil with alittle length. ball can get flippy on short extreme dry but doesnt make its move too soon. burnt out lanes im playing four arrow and carrying pretty much everything. i really want anouther hornet thats rico'd. the rico layout has become my favorite on the lane masters /  legends balls.
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Re: Lanemasters/Legends Hornet - Your thoughts?
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2008, 01:56:46 AM »
I'm using Hornet about 6 months. With Hornet I can play on any conditions. Was struggling with OOB surface, was too flippy. Week ago changed surface to 2500 sandpaper grit and got smooth reaction off the breakpoint. On 39 feet oil I am playing from deep 40 board to 5 at breakpoint.

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Re: Lanemasters/Legends Hornet - Your thoughts?
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2008, 12:05:08 AM »
Ram,
for the conditions you're looking for, the layout you said is money. i have my roto-grip mercury drilled that way, and it is so easy to use on burnt conditions. don't worry about killing it though, it should have enough hook with that layout on the right amount of oil. my mercury does, at least. good luck!

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Re: Lanemasters/Legends Hornet - Your thoughts?
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2008, 08:08:30 AM »
I have seen a Sting with a Rico drilling. Evened out the backend nicely but it still had very good recovery and that "LM/L" pop at the pindeck.

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Re: Lanemasters/Legends Hornet - Your thoughts?
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2008, 10:10:33 AM »
used my hornet at state tornament last week. lanes had good head oil and decent length but flying backends. hornet just killed the pattern. i came close to shooting 300 in 2nd game of singles.
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Re: Lanemasters/Legends Hornet - Your thoughts?
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2008, 04:26:05 PM »
Ram,

Don't know if you've read any of my reviews of this ball. The ball is sneaky strong. I don't think you can kill it! It just naturally has pop and hit on the end,....period.

I 've used my ball on broken down patterns, lite oil patterns, and am now starting to venture using it on mediums and oily conditions with additional surface prep. The ball carries well. Just find the right release and it is money!

I plan on getting another one and drilling it pin down, but under the middle finger. In its highly polished state, it gets plenty of length. I have to vary my release somewhat to smooth out its move off the spot. You can't lose.
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