I have a XS Power, Term Rebellion, and Black Diamond that I am getting ready to drill up. The black diamond will be the simplest, was planning on same drill as my favorite ball the BPReactive, Even with the pin above my bridge which is a weaker drill with my PAP (in profile) which I also believe has went up, since I am tracking much closer to my fingers and thumb as of the last couple months. The BPR still flares every bit of 6 inches, and needs medium oil atleast. My question with the Black Diamond layout is drilling it the same as the BPR, will I see enough noticeable difference?

Now witht the Term Rebellion and XS power, I am not so sure. I  know the XS has and early rolling high flaring core in it. Pin up around 5.5 x 5 or so, just not sure how strong the cover is. I don''t want it to be be to weka, but not a to strong roll out at my feet ball either. Tony said 5x4 would be good with this ball. Bowlersjournal said they were getting 6 inches of flare with a 4.5 layout, so 5 may be a little strong depending on cover strength.  

The Term Rebellion has the normal LM high RG core but considerably lower diff than the XS. I don''t know how I should drill this, I don''t wnat to have it overlapping with the XS. Much help needed witht this ball. HAve a NIB original Terminator i am goign to base the drill I use on it from the Term Rebellion, whihc is a much more available ball to try again if it doesn''t work.

As of player stats, revs around 350-375 sounds like a good guess. PAP is 5 1/4 x 1/2 up lat time checked which was a year ago. I would say around mid 5''s these days am getting it rechecked this week. LAtely I have been alot more up the back, even with my pinky tucked which alows me to get in deeper while keeping my carry. I would say my axis tilt is around 15-30, that is a guess, have not had that checked. I seem to accentuate a balls strngth, I seem top make equipment seem alot stronger than it is meant to be, probably from the lower axis tilt. I have to be careful on drills with strong equipment. I tend to gravitate to pin up drillings, pin downs seem to condition specific for me.

What I already haveed on PAP from last year
BPReactive- 5.5x3.5, pin above bridge, use this ball everywhere when there is a minimum of medium oil, very strong pearl
Big Kahuna- 5 x 4 pin in ring, big WH 2.5 away from thumb. Very strong midlane ball that still scoots on backend, greta ball for medium-heavy or carrydown.
Dynamic power- 4 x 2 3/4, WH 1 inch below PAP. This ball FLARES, and I have found a condition to make it usable, may be to strong of as drill and need some polish, strongest ball I have ever thrown.
Buzz- 5x4.5 pin above rinf, only used it like 2 games do far, but is a weaker ball better for light mediums.
Hornet- 4 3/4 x 3, WH 2 inches beloe PAP. Excellent ball for going up the boards on the dry, bets dry lane ball I will ever have. Nuff said


Any help would be grateful, really looking forward to drilling these pieces. Sorry for the long post, just wanted to give information
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Edited on 1/2/2010 3:23 PM

I have both the BPR and BD. I agree with you punching the BD about the same as the BPR. Same strong core, same differential RG and medium-high RG. BPR has a pearl reactive surface versus the solid medium-load particle surface for the BD. My BD is significantly stronger on medium-heavy conditions as the BPR. Even in factory polished form, the BD is stronger on the back end but still gets suprisingly good length. Both the BPR and BP flare 6+ inches: Stay away from flare-increasing weight holes. If after your drill the BD and find it close to the BPR, the BD cover is much more tuneable than earlier LM/L particle balls. White or gold pad will substantially increase its midlane read.

Of the others you mention, I have both the Buzz and Hornet and totally agree with you about each. If you find either one jumping when they see dry, consider some white pad or 2000/4000-abralon. Same length with a more consistent read. The Hornet loves being tossed into the teeth of the dry. The Buzz is just money on a blown-up track or medium-dry to medium pattern.

With you rev rate and forward roll, the 5 x 4 that Tony recommends seems like a good/great call. I don''t have an XSP but I''ve seen a couple of them: One from a player with similar revs as yourself and the other, a tweener around 275-300 with about a 45-degree release. The XSP has a similar core as your DP so you already know how early these want to read. I couldn''t imagine using anything pin-to-PAP shorter than 4.5" or so.

I don''t have a TR but do have a Terminator. These are not flare monsters. My Terminator is at 5" pin to PAP and, in hindsight, I could have drilled it 4 x 4 or 4 x 3.5. It reads suprisingly late for a particle ball with a 5" pin to PAP. Very good ball: predictable and "rolly."

Best wishes for your additions. You already have quite an arsenal going for you.


Edited on 1/3/2010 1:07 AM