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Grayson

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particles
« on: April 03, 2008, 08:01:20 PM »
I don't know wether to ask here or L/LM directly.

Maybe someone here knows and can tell me:

Since know I thought the particles in Bowling balls used were made out off Siliconcarbide (SiC) the next hardest material after Diamond.

But I read on the L/LM homepage in the FAQs that they use "Carbon" particles.

Now I am a chemist... in fact a solid state chemist and have a clue about that stuff and wonder what L/LM means when they talk about "Carbon" particles... cannot be Graphit for sure

What "Carbon"-comnpound is used or is that a secret?

General:
and do different companies use differenc carbides?

I have now a Track MAchine and like the particle look and the ball keeps working though the image of particles was bad.

For half a year I am thinking to get a Terminator as a heavy oiler / med-heavy.

I dulled my Machine and it works fine on our pattern but I wanted to try the L/LM stuff....

So... anyone have a clue? Just out of interest.

I have read different reviews on the Terminator now and it seems to be a real option for my style with my med revs, good speed and the broader heavier pattern.
(I consider myself as a power stroker)

well... have to save up the money.



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Re: particles
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2008, 05:22:53 AM »
They used to advertise the fact that they had diamond particles in them.

  That's a carbon, right?
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Re: particles
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2008, 05:34:49 AM »
its the same material your thinking of grayson... they just call them super carbons.

they chose them because diamonds only were good for one size while the carbon allows them to vary the micron size.

lanemasters tends to use multiple sizes and blends to achieve the traction they like.(in some of their balls)

this is the reason i like legends/lm... always doing something no other company is doing.



(i will never forget the first time I saw a l/lm... the guy pulled out all those accessories and the ball was wrapped in plastic... i thought, "what a joke" and "talk about hypeing ur product with all that packaging"" ... I had no idea how dumb I could be till I tried one of their products)

Grayson

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Re: particles
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2008, 06:10:52 AM »
thanks for all the info...

I know the materials used for the particles today are better than in the old days I am really satisfied with my actual particle ball

Imho the thing L/LM writes in their FAQ is true

Particle even outs the oil conditions making balls work over a wider range of conditions.

But that term "carbon" just was not what I knew...

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Re: particles
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2008, 08:23:25 AM »
well i wasnt 100% sure either... but knowing that they specifically said somewhere that it was the next hardest material and that l/lm are known for the best materials possible... then you know it would have to be silicon carbide...

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Re: particles
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2008, 12:08:28 PM »
Grayson,

I have no more definitive reply for you than anyone else (except the Lm chemists) but I do remember LM saying something to the effect that the "Super Carbon" particles used in the "plain" Lanemasters balls were only slightly different from the industrial diamond dust used in the Legends series of balls.

Plus I understand that they stopped using the diamond particles because they couldn't get it in various sizes that they wanted to try. So, I think all the non-Legends balls and all the new particles use the "Super Carbon" variaton. The Terminator was, I believe, their first ball with two different size particles in the particle mix.

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