Ok, so I broke down and got one.  The last night of our PBA league, the pro shop guy comes out with a new YB he just drilled and I asked if he'd like to fill in for my teammate with a bum knee.  He threw it a few times, didn't really care for it.  I believe it was the Viper pattern or the Shark pattern.  It didn't really finish well, he had a lot of light hits, some carried some didn't.

At the end of the night, he says he doesn't like it and offered me a really great price for it.  For a ball with all of 15 shots on it, I couldn't pass it up.  He was even able to avoid plugging it, he just put in a solid slug and drilled it off center, our spans were close enough to do that.

I'll try throwing it in league tomorrow.

I got all the goodies from the box, too.  I watched the DVD, and while those guys may know a lot, and it's clear that they do, they seem a bit put off being in front of a camera.

Edit: It's drilled with the pin next to the ring finger and the CG about an inch right of stacked with a weight hole about 4 1/2" from my grip center.  For me, it's about a 4 1/2 x 3 1/2.

SH

Edited on 7/31/2007 11:34 PM

His PAP is lower than mine, it probably was closer to 3" pin-to-PAP for him.  Looking at his track, he's probably in the 4 1/2" range, I'm 6"+.  He also threw an Action Max and a TNV, neither of which really turned up to the pocket real well.  I threw my Thing Lives drilled 3 1/2 x 3 1/2 and had a good reaction, so there was a good bit of oil.

If I can throw it before tonight, I'll see if maybe some polish will help.  The middle finger insert is, I'm very sure, too small.  I complained about that but he kept saying that if I can get my finger in (I can, but I can almost hold the ball up with it), it's not too small.  It fit ok when he was fitting me, and usually installing it opens it up a little, but this is too tight.  

Can you open up inserts with a knife?  He said he'd replace 'em if they don't work out, but he won't be around 'til Thursday (he splits his time between two shops).

SH