finally got my terminator drilled and able to throw it a couple times. the ball first, #15 pin 1 7/8 top wt 3oz. drilled it stacked leverage. i am on higher end of tweener with good speed, dont know any of my personal specs sorry. threw the ball on freshly oiled wooden lanes and wow is all i got to say. threw between 5th and 6 th arrow out to 5 board and bingo in the heart of the pocket. before all this i warmed up with my rs-p and just slid standing and throwing in same area. this ball is going to be a blast to throw in league. i like roto gear but always wanted l/lm ball and now that i got a sample i may just jump ship. even if i dont this wont be my last l/lm ball as i have been eyeing the next terminator ball or even the buzz. or maybe the black pearl particle, or ...... stay tuned as i have just realized i dont have enough money to support my habit, any and all donations welcome and are tax deductible.