Author Topic: A tale of coverstock strength (Read 1895 times)

charlest · « **on:** September 17, 2008, 10:28:35 AM »

Recently the World Class Reactive was discontinued. I always wanted one so I bought one. According to reviews and some people's comments, it's a fairly flippy ball. So, not liking flip a lot, I drilled it to control the flip by using a low Pin position, but still 5" from my PAP and placing the CG in the thumb positive quadrant so it would need a weight hole to add flare.

Not adding my new release's early rolling characteristic into the equation was a flaw I'd have to deal with later ... (Sigh!)

Basically, the ball rolled early on/in every league and house I used it. 2 synthetics: aAMF's HPL and Brunswick's AnvilLanes and an independent with Guardian overlay in the front 30' and pine in the back 30'.

SInce the WCR, like most polished Lm/L balls is 800 grit (US/CAMI grade) + polish, 2000 grit Abralon (FEPA) would be little change (800 grit US = 1600 grit FEPA), I went to 4000 grit Abralon + Valentino's Snake Oil.

Better, but still no prize. Barely usable.

So what's finer than 4000 grit Abralon (without re-drilling. Always a last resort)? Why the Trizact Cerium Oxide pad, of course. I did that last night and re-polished with Snake Oil and tried it today in practice. It seems to be the right surface for the light amount of oil they're using on the super-slick AnvilLanes.

I admit this is a little far to go, not to have to redrill a ball, but I had the supplies ready. Of course, it was/is possible that this still won't work out in league or tournament play. But, for the time being, it seems to allow the ball to have the desired reaction with my current release.

Please keep your fingers crossed, your toes crossed and, if possible, your eyes crossed, for luck.

Darn these Lanemasters coverstocks are strong.

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Edited on 9/17/2008 6:28 PM

A_P_K · « **Reply #1 on:** September 17, 2008, 07:30:12 PM »

Jeff, I might need your help sanding my HRG with that cerium oxide soon as well.

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ValentinoBowling · « **Reply #2 on:** September 17, 2008, 07:40:58 PM »

Jeff, you and your plastic sand paper, always trying to push the envelope of coverstock prep. lol. Tell me how it works, we've never tried using the polishing pad then Snake Oil.

I know my Big-R-Bang is at 4000/Snake Oil. I made the mistake of drilling it stacked. Having an old school stroker style, that ball makes me look like robert smith.

Good Luck!

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charlest · « **Reply #3 on:** September 17, 2008, 07:47:50 PM »

Anthony and Kevin,

Alls I know is it works. That cerium oxide pad is finer than 4000 grit Abralon. It was meant for the old B'wick super-hard original particle and it sands/polishes Corian to as fine a level as possible,

Anything to save another $40 drilling fee.

Kevin,

Here's where I get mine.
http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=132-224
They're not backed by sponge, but any damp kitchen sponge will do the trick. Check the ballreviews FAQ for the grit level of each color.

Anthony,

Just bring it tomorrow and I can do it for you, or get a few white pads from the above. That is really where I get mine these days.

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Edited on 9/17/2008 7:59 PM

directdrill · « **Reply #4 on:** September 17, 2008, 07:50:24 PM »

Charlest,

I believe you left out the link on where to purchase Trizact Cerium Oxide pads. Where can you buy them?
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A_P_K · « **Reply #5 on:** September 17, 2008, 07:54:26 PM »

I'll bring the HRG next week, I want to test the 4000 plus Snake Oil against the OOB cover plus polish on my Mercury at Parkway this weekend.
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charlest · « **Reply #6 on:** September 17, 2008, 07:59:38 PM »

quote:
Charlest,

I believe you left out the link on where to purchase Trizact Cerium Oxide pads. Where can you buy them?
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sorry 'bout dat. Edited.
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mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #7 on:** September 17, 2008, 11:20:19 PM »

I still have a set or two of each grit for a CAB, might have to dig the cobwebs off the box and try a white pad again. Still have 400 and 600 pads galore and now that i know abralon is so close, I realize why 600 was always my favorite grit in the old days.

BigHorhn · « **Reply #8 on:** September 18, 2008, 09:17:05 AM »

Good post as always Charlest. My take on it is how strong the ball is with the pin low. I just bought a used world class reactive of ebay and I plan on using it on some light/dry lanes. I was thinking of drilling it stacked like my world class, pin next to and ring finger about a inch above cg stacked below with a 4inch pin. I roll the ball early also. I'm going to go with that and if its to much put a little polish on it. Thanks

charlest · « **Reply #9 on:** September 18, 2008, 02:36:54 PM »

quote:
Good post as always Charlest. My take on it is how strong the ball is with the pin low. I just bought a used world class reactive of ebay and I plan on using it on some light/dry lanes. I was thinking of drilling it stacked like my world class, pin next to and ring finger about a inch above cg stacked below with a 4inch pin. I roll the ball early also. I'm going to go with that and if its to much put a little polish on it. Thanks

Bighorn,

Despite the strength of the WC coverstocks (I've had both the particle and the reactive now), AND despite the medium-high RG of the core, that core makes the ball roll early. If the WCR is going to be your go-to ball, for when the WC original is too much, and this is only a suggestion, I'd be inclined to recommend that you put the pin a little higher, and maybe a little further away: just maybe putting the pin over the ring finger. I'm not saying you should or ought to do this just something to think about.

FYI I also have a Bruiser and i've found the WCR is a step over the Bruiser.

Good luck.
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icewall · « **Reply #10 on:** September 18, 2008, 03:22:56 PM »

charlest, are the "other" lanemaster balls really as strong as you always say? (other stands for other then the buzz)

for me my buzz isnt all that strong yet you always make them sound amazingly strong.

the only company to do this to me so far is visionary. I really am a fan of visionary and lane masters but never got a chance after the buzz (had to try visionary first

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all visionary this year

blurple
ogre ss
glad.
glad. pearl

charlest · « **Reply #11 on:** September 18, 2008, 04:35:34 PM »

quote:
charlest, are the "other" lanemaster balls really as strong as you always say? (other stands for other then the buzz)

for me my buzz isnt all that strong yet you always make them sound amazingly strong.

Are they all? It depends on all the usual characters: you, the ball, the drilling and the oil. As you may have missed it, I did start this by saying I am using a new release and I drilled the ball with too low a pin for this release. I am learning not to make assumptions and am being much more careful about how I drill balls for it.

But, yes, many of their covcerstocks are extraordinarily strong. I wouldn't say the Buzz was one of them, but I do like it enough to own 2 of them. I WOULD SAY that the WCR, the Masterpiece are two of their stronger coverstocks. (I sanded my Masterpiece, a resin pearl, and my New Standard, a solid particle, both to 2000 grit Abralon, with both having the same drilling. The MP was earlier and stronger than the NS. The MP was close in ball reaction, FOR ME, as most other companies particle pearls.

There has no been no other company that I have so badly underestimated how strong their covers were/are. I have had to re-drill more LM balls weaker than any other brand of ball I have owned. Maybe it's just me I can't speak for any one else, BUTTTT I have never even been tempted to take a Trizact white pad to any other brand of ball but the Brunswick older particle balls, like the Riot Zone and Lanemasters balls.

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the only company to do this to me so far is visionary. I really am a fan of visionary and lane masters but never got a chance after the buzz (had to try visionary first )
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all visionary this year

blurple
ogre ss
glad.
glad. pearl

I am using all Lanemaster and Visionary myself right now. While I appreciate and really like Visionary balls, I wouldn't say they were stronger than I thought they would be. They do hit very hard. Hey, I like them so much I just picked up a NIB Orange Pearl Warlock! I'm using an AMB Bronze Centaur, a Frankie May Gryphon and two B/G Centaurs.

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