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skbowl800

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Big Kahuna help/info...Scotchbrite???
« on: May 15, 2007, 01:08:53 PM »
Just picked one up today, it is used and I was just wondering since it is a particle ball, how would you recommend I resurface it?  I have read that I shouldn't use sandpaper, is this correct?  The ball looks to be in pretty good shape and I didn't get much if any oil out of it when I gave it a hot water bath.  
I bowl mostly on wood lanes with guardian heads, what should I expect to get out of this ball?  
How does this ball take to surface changes?  
I am thinking of plishing it up since I bowl on the higher friction surfaces most of the time, good/bad idea?  I am rev dominant (380ish) and I throw it between 15.5 and 16.5mph.  
Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.  I have been wanting to try Legends/Lane Masters for a while and I am very excited to throw this ball.

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Re: Big Kahuna help/info...Scotchbrite???
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2007, 09:17:01 PM »
Expect a strong arc type reaction out of the B/K, L/L balls take well to surface changes from my personal experience (NS2).  No harm in polishing the ball just be mindful that when it get to dry to put it up.

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Re: Big Kahuna help/info...Scotchbrite???
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2007, 10:22:38 PM »
The Legends balls take changes fairly well. I really, really like my Big Kahuna, in both 15 lb and 16 lb versions. One caution however, the BK's particles are diamonds; that means that even the silicon carbide abrasive in wet/dry sandpaper will not truly affect the diamonds, but only the resin base in which they are embedded. This means that changes you make with sandpaper will be reflected in the ball's reaction but not quite as much as if you used a very hard abrasive, like Trizact sandpaper or the diamond pads in a Haus machine. (I hope I am not confusing you: you will definitely see ball reaction changes when you sand and when you polish this ball!)

One other concern is with your guardian overlay. It is a VERY soft lane surface; unless the lane people at your center use plenty of oil in the heads, you must be very watchful of the BK starting to hook early. It will, of course, be great once you start getting carrydown, as all Guradian overlays get.

FYI the stock sheen finish is slightly smoother than the 800 grit nylon pad that Legends uses to get the final finish on the ball. It might be, in fact, closer to around 1200 or even 1500 grit. But use the grit that gets you the best reaction: anywhere from 800 - 2000 grit, or even a light polish.

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skbowl800

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Re: Big Kahuna help/info...Scotchbrite???
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2007, 01:42:44 PM »
How would a green or blue scotchbrite pad work on the ball?

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Re: Big Kahuna help/info...Scotchbrite???
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2007, 01:58:24 PM »
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How would a green or blue scotchbrite pad work on the ball?


A Green pad would, as far as I know, make it roll/hook a good deal earlier.  Ablue pad (fairly unusual for most people) might be slightly earlier than stock. A lot depends on how thoroughly you apply the pad (how hard and for how long).

The use of either pad would be after you resurface it back to specs. Neither one by itself would bring the BK back to specs. Check the website for the exact details of the procedure.
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skbowl800

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Re: Big Kahuna help/info...Scotchbrite???
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2007, 02:05:19 PM »
Ok, thanks.  I was just wondering how they compared to sandpaper and those trizact pads when it comes to effectiveness on the ball.  I was thinking of hitting it with the blue and then polishing it.

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Re: Big Kahuna help/info...Scotchbrite???
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2007, 04:46:18 PM »
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Ok, thanks.  I was just wondering how they compared to sandpaper and those trizact pads when it comes to effectiveness on the ball.  I was thinking of hitting it with the blue and then polishing it.


For small to medium changes, they are effective.  

As for the blue plus polish, you could do it just so you know your baseline. However, until you try the ball as is, I wouldn't put too much polish on the BK, because, in my experience, it has some decent length as it is. Try the polish after some initial use.

The blue nylon pad is about 1000 grit; that is, for me anyway, a good starting point, if you're unsure of the ball as you have it in your hands right now.
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Re: Big Kahuna help/info...Scotchbrite???
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2007, 04:24:56 AM »
ok, thanks for the help.  I tend to want to polish everything since I usually bowl on high friction wood lanes and need polish to help get the ball down the lane with some energy left for the hit.