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Title: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: xrayjay on January 30, 2017, 05:45:33 PM
How much will the USBC fees go up next year?

Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: Steven on January 30, 2017, 05:48:27 PM
Whatever it is, it will be too much for Morpheus.  ;)
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: Aloarjr810 on January 30, 2017, 05:53:49 PM
from the looks of it $3

"Leading up to the USBC Convention, the USBC Board asked associations to support the dues cap increase amendment and set a schedule if it was approved – national dues will not increase for the 2016-2017 season, national dues would increase to $13 for the 2017-2018 season and national dues would not increase again before the 2022-2023 season"

http://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622326459 (http://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622326459)
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: xrayjay on January 30, 2017, 05:56:12 PM
Whatever it is, it will be too much for Morphius.  ;)

bbwwahahaha :D
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: xrayjay on January 30, 2017, 05:57:26 PM
from the looks of it $3

"Leading up to the USBC Convention, the USBC Board asked associations to support the dues cap increase amendment and set a schedule if it was approved – national dues will not increase for the 2016-2017 season, national dues would increase to $13 for the 2017-2018 season and national dues would not increase again before the 2022-2023 season"

http://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622326459 (http://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622326459)
Still less than my locker rental at the alley.
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: MI 2 AZ on January 30, 2017, 06:03:37 PM
Whatever it is, it will be too much for Morphius.  ;)

He should be hoping it is going up $20 since he doesn't bowl any sanctioned leagues anyways.  :)
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: morpheus on January 30, 2017, 06:12:54 PM
So let me get this straight, there are fewer members and the USBC provides fewer services but they have to charge more? In the real world that's a recipe for failure, but you keep defending mediocrity, it's noble work you're doing.
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: Steven on January 30, 2017, 06:23:46 PM
In the real world, it's called inflation. I guess you're happy to go year-after-year without any kind of raise, but most people/organizations aren't. BTW, I'm not sure what they've cut back on other than trinkets of questionable value.
 
In any case, you validated my original post. Thx.


Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: morpheus on January 30, 2017, 07:00:59 PM
Maybe you forgot, they just got a raise with lifetime honor score awards and now local associations are responsible for all other awards. But then again, in the real world losing 90% of your customers means you should probably stop doing the same thing expecting a different result. But hey, as long as it benefits you personally it must be awesome.
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: Steven on January 30, 2017, 07:12:31 PM
It does benefit me personally, and it is awesome!  ;D
 
I've got the USBC Open Championships, the USBC Super Senior Classic, and the USBC Senior Masters lined up between now and the end of June. All in Las Vegas. It doesn't get much better. Unless you'd rather be doing unsactioned pot games.  ::)
 
To each his own....
 

Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: morpheus on January 30, 2017, 07:16:42 PM
You are undoubtedly the demographic that is going to grow membership lol
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: Steven on January 30, 2017, 08:26:53 PM
You are undoubtedly the demographic that is going to grow membership lol

Actually, I am. I got my daughter and her new husband to do a summer league with me (both non-bowlers). They both had such a good time, that they recruited a few of their friends to do a regular 35 week league. When Bowlmor bought the house where their league was, and began to push them out, I found a slot for their league in another house to keep the whole situation from falling apart. I'm fairly certain most of the bowlers would have otherwise quit and stopped sanctioned bowling all together.
 
So yes, thank you. I'd like to think I've done my small part. It actually feels good to do something instead of just complain.
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: morpheus on January 30, 2017, 08:33:20 PM
It's noble work you're doing...and yet bowling declines every year because they cater to the one percent like yourself that would show up to bowl no matter what.
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: Bowlaholic on January 30, 2017, 11:56:25 PM
OK you two.  You both made your point, so let's move on.  Thanks.
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: Steven on January 31, 2017, 12:00:33 AM
OK you two.  You both made your point, so let's move on.  Thanks.

 
There you go trying to censor discussion again. You can move on in any direction you'd like. I'll do the same. Thanks.
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: milorafferty on January 31, 2017, 12:17:52 AM
You are undoubtedly the demographic that is going to grow membership lol

Actually, I am. I got my daughter and her new husband to do a summer league with me (both non-bowlers). They both had such a good time, that they recruited a few of their friends to do a regular 35 week league. When Bowlmor bought the house where their league was, and began to push them out, I found a slot for their league in another house to keep the whole situation from falling apart. I'm fairly certain most of the bowlers would have otherwise quit and stopped sanctioned bowling all together.
 
So yes, thank you. I'd like to think I've done my small part. It actually feels good to do something instead of just complain.

Amen!

Us bowlers have to save bowling instead of sitting on our ass crying about some one else needing to do somethingood about it.
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: mainzer on January 31, 2017, 12:54:32 AM
3$ more? Who cares? They have employees to pay and insurance to cover the employees is not cheap.

Morpheus just proves the point I have made many times, the only problem with bowling is the bowlers
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: Steven on January 31, 2017, 11:43:45 AM

Amen!

Us bowlers have to save bowling instead of sitting on our ass crying about some one else needing to do somethingood about it.

 
That's the solution in the nutshell. Looking for any organization to accomplish what we can do much more effectively is pure silly.
 
I'll gladly pony up my additional $3....
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: xrayjay on January 31, 2017, 11:55:33 AM
Before I posted this, I had asked the ladies in my department (I'm the only male) if they wanted a "bowling night out" one weekend day. The last time I had done this, one employee joined a saturday night league and two others/families go "cosmic bowling". My old supervisor takes his two girls bowling once a week!! He had recently asked me to help his girls with basic bowling.

My 13 old boy is now getting into bowling, soon my 3 yr old too lol....

There's $3 in my truck, somewhere in the desk in my den, my tool box, my 3 year old doll house or toy box.. lol

Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: skizzle on January 31, 2017, 11:32:26 PM
So basically what it comes down to is sacrificing one beer or value meal over the course of the year.  Is it really that big of a deal?
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: spmcgivern on February 01, 2017, 08:07:49 AM
So basically what it comes down to is sacrificing one beer or value meal over the course of the year.  Is it really that big of a deal?

To some... yes.  The common argument I hear is at $10, members feel they don't get $10 worth of value.  Of course, perceived value is subjective.  Some put more value on bonding than others and the same can be said for all of the services USBC provides.

So if $10 was too much in their opinion, then $13 will also, especially since it appears there won't be any increase in services for the members.

For me, I am not expecting $10 worth of services or "stuff" when I send in my money.  Much like other organizations, you really can't get your money's worth or the organization will not be able to function.  You have to feel as if you are giving money to a cause or charity.

Some may not like that term (charity), but for me, I am a willing donor.  I enjoy the sport of bowling.  I like watching the events online.  I like having the ability to go to USBC tournaments.  I like some of the resources USBC provides.  But that is me, and I realize I am different than most members. 
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: Good Times Good Times on February 01, 2017, 09:39:06 AM
To some... yes.  The common argument I hear is at $10, members feel they don't get $10 worth of value.  Of course, perceived value is subjective.  Some put more value on bonding than others and the same can be said for all of the services USBC provides.

I would like to hear the argument that the fee itself is NOT worth the bonding.....in essence, the argument that there is little value on bonding.

I like having the ability to go to USBC tournaments.

I do too.  It is quite fun.  I feel like I get sanction value off of this experience alone....."but that's just me".
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: milorafferty on February 01, 2017, 09:44:24 AM
But, but, but...I gave USBC $10 LAST YEAR...and there is still famine in Africa. They are obviously just wasting the money.  ;D
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: Kegler300800 on February 01, 2017, 11:18:13 AM
It will be an additional $5 making it $25 here in Metro Detroit. I will GLADLY pay it. The USBC isn't perfect, but nothing better has come along to replace it (I'm looking at that joke called the American Bowling Consortium).

Just like golf needs the USGA for at least the rules of golf, bowling needs the USBC for at least the rules of bowling. Plus, both run tournaments for their members and test equipment. Plus, the league bonding and member discounts the USBC gives you is well worth the money. If you don't use the member discounts, you are missing great savings that would save you way more than $25 a year.

If you are still hung up about not getting your patches, magnets, key chains and siladium rings, you need to go find something else to do. Bowling doesn't need or want you.
Title: Re: $2, $3, $5.... anyone have the link to next years fees?
Post by: morpheus on February 01, 2017, 01:24:23 PM
3$ more? Who cares? They have employees to pay and insurance to cover the employees is not cheap.

Morpheus just proves the point I have made many times, the only problem with bowling is the bowlers

#alternativefacts