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$35 for shipping?!
« on: May 27, 2008, 05:31:46 PM »
Are you serious?
This is getting ridiculous. Why cant everyone like me use calculated shipping instead of robbing everyone with over priced shipping?

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Re: $35 for shipping?!
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2008, 01:33:23 AM »
always a good sign when the current price is LESS than the shipping rate.  I just charge $15 to ship anywhere, but I don't sell much on ebay.
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Re: $35 for shipping?!
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2008, 05:31:41 AM »
That's really a rip off. It might be 35.00 from Ore. to Fla. but everything in-between is cheaper. I just bought a ball with parcel post shipping. The shipping cost was 10.50, but the seller only lived about 150 miles away. That seller used a shipping calculator.

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It is possible he has to burn 10.00 worth of gas to get to the post office and back. The way gas prices are now, nobody wants to eat that cost. maybe he should have put shipping and handling.
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Re: $35 for shipping?!
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2008, 05:48:40 AM »
And it's US Postal Service Parcel Post® .
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Re: $35 for shipping?!
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 07:08:51 AM »
I quit buying on ebay a long time ago when shipping rates became such a ripoff. I don't care how cheap the ball is. I refuse to pay someone double the price over actual shipping. I would also NEVER EVER bid on a ball where someone sends it Parcel Post. That is the worst shipping service there is and it takes forever..

Shipping costs are for shipping, not to pay the sellers ebay fees, some ridiculous made up  handling fee and gas.. Thats my opinion and I am sticking to it..

I have been selling stuff on here for years and always charge actual shipping that I pay, nothing more, nothing less..


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Re: $35 for shipping?!
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2008, 07:12:07 AM »
I still don't get why people get so worked up about this.  The ebay seller sets the shipping price higher than actual price because he doesn't have to pay ebay a cut of the shipping charges!  Take the difference in actual shipping from the $35 and factor that into whatever you are willing to pay for the ball.  You still pay the same total amount in that case, but he gets a higher profit as he has to pay ebay less money.  The seller expects you to understand this and be prepared for it -- it's a dubious practice, but probably 60-70% of ebay sellers I've ever used did it.  Until ebay actually cracks down on it, everyone is going to overcharge for shipping.  Just expect it and bid an appropriately smaller amount on the bid price to make up for it.

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Re: $35 for shipping?!
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2008, 07:51:04 AM »
If that was for a new ball that would be one thing, but that ball has been drilled.
What I mean by if it was a new ball, if he only gets the $29.99 bid, than add on the $35.00 for delivery, that would be $64.99 for a brand new high end ball. And who among us wouldn't take that deal everyday.
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Re: $35 for shipping?!
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 10:00:42 AM »
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Are you serious?
This is getting ridiculous. Why cant everyone like me use calculated shipping instead of robbing everyone with over priced shipping?

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WHile I'm not saying that $35 is right, think about these facts:
1. I sold a 2 drill Ogre for $35 shipped recently. SOunded reasonable until someone in LA wanted it. UPS shipping cost me MORE THAN $25.
2. If the guy has to buy the outside box, that's another $50 - $1, depending on his source.
3. If the shipping address is residential, UPS wants more money.
4. Who pays for the gas to get to the UPS store which may not be around the corner? Consider that as handling.
5. 16 lb balls ship as 17.3 - 17.5 lbs, which always rounds up to 18 lbs, while 15 lb balls ship as 16 lbs.

Yes, if you're not on either coast, then the overall price of shipping is less.
Yes, if you're in this as a business, then some of these costs average out to less.

On the other hand, since gas prices are so high now, FEDEX, DHL and UPS prices will rise via additional charges, not in the basic shipping cost.

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Re: $35 for shipping?!
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2008, 12:06:41 PM »
I am not crying about anything.. I am just saying I am not buying stuff on ebay anymore because of the ridiculous shipping prices.. Its just my opinion..

I do understand the thought process of the shipping + bid = total cost..

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I cant believe you guys keep bringing this up.

How much would you pay for this ball? Lets just say 50 total is all you are willing to pay. so bid 15.00 and his shipping is 35.00 walla your paying 50 total. You guys that cry about these charges are unreal. Its all about the bottom line price.

It still all works out the same, quit looking for things to cry about, or maybe cry about ebay, and paypal ripping sellers off with the out of this world fees.
 
That would be something valid to discuss.
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Re: $35 for shipping?!
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2008, 01:34:15 PM »
Until Ebay chooses to fix the obvious gouging in shipping costs, people will continue to do this. Sure, it may even out in the total price of the ball but it's an obvious way to sidestep some Ebay selling fees.

At last check I can get a 16 pound ball from Oregon to say, New York for about $25. Cheaper via FedEx Ground.

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Re: $35 for shipping?!
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2008, 08:57:25 PM »
Wasn't there a post awhile ago about EBAY? If I remember correctly, EBAY charges a certain percentage on what you sell the product for. So if you sell it cheap, you will not have to pay them all that much money and then you can make the money you originally wanted for it by charging more in shipping. And there is more money in your pocket then in EBAY's.

At least that is what I remember about the post.
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Re: $35 for shipping?!
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2008, 09:05:37 PM »
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Wasn't there a post awhile ago about EBAY? If I remember correctly, EBAY charges a certain percentage on what you sell the product for. So if you sell it cheap, you will not have to pay them all that much money and then you can make the money you originally wanted for it by charging more in shipping. And there is more money in your pocket then in EBAY's.

At least that is what I remember about the post.
Yeah, that's basically what I said in an earlier post in this thread as well.  It's a common underhand tactic to make extra profit by not having to give ebay as big of a cut.

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Re: $35 for shipping?!
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2008, 09:10:14 PM »
I just shipped a ball from NY to AZ, USPS priority was $34. Its not a bad deal, package was shipped quickly.

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Re: $35 for shipping?!
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2008, 09:27:07 PM »
The way to fix this once and for all is for eBay to require the use of a shipping calculator the way they are moving toward requiring PayPal.

I don't mind a "handling fee" attached, either. Packing materials, gas to the dropoff point and time all cost money. It's also not fair to expect someone to charge $15 for shipping, but have to buy $3 in packing materials and $5 in gas and have to eat that $8 out of the price of the item -- particularly when it's a cheap item.

Many eBay sellers, though (including my wife) schedule home pick-ups. That cuts out the gas, anyway.

The issue of why charging abnormally high shipping rates isn't morally right, is twofold. One has been mentioned (shorting eBay on the listing fees). The second is actually a function of psychology. Yes, you can add up in your head how much you are willing to pay, goods + shipping, and stop bidding there. However, many people don't do that, and/or they stink at math and CAN'T do it.

If I could run a controlled experiment on this matter, I would, but I bet you'd find that people lose the "buyer's discipline" more quickly when they have to do this equation in their head, and often end up overspending.

That's great if you're the seller. Sucks if you're a competing bidder on a budget.

I'll give you a firsthand example: I bought a Lane #1 Gold Nugget for $50 with free shipping a couple of months back, using Buy-It-Now. The ball sat there for an entire day and no one bid on it. Now, how many people do you think are going to get a Gold Nugget in great shape at $25 with shipping of $25? Not too many. It would have gone for a combined $65 ($40+$25) at least. My gain and I'm not complaining, but only because I jumped on a good deal once I did the math. A lot of people won't/can't.

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