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thewhiz

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14 lb. vs. 15 lb.
« on: October 12, 2016, 12:15:43 PM »
My girlfriend currently throws 15 pound balls.  She is having trouble getting turn on the ball.  I think the balls too heavy.  Any opinions on this.  Would a lighter ball be easier to turn?  Would she lose carry?  Which she doesn't have now cause she don't turn it.  What do the ladies use on tour?  She is currently taking lessons.  She averages 170.

 

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Re: 14 lb. vs. 15 lb.
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2016, 12:20:31 PM »
what's her speed?

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Re: 14 lb. vs. 15 lb.
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2016, 12:20:50 PM »
If she is taking lessons, her coach should be the one to determine if she needs to drop weight or not.  Most on the PWBA use 15 lbs and I personally believe most women can handle 15 lbs. 

I don't think the amount of turn she gets on the ball is as much a factor of weight as it is of form.  A different story would be if the ball's weight is causing her wrist to break and reducing rotation and revs.  But again, this is something her coach should decide.

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Re: 14 lb. vs. 15 lb.
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2016, 12:41:10 PM »
Speed is around 13.  Wears a wrist brace.  You guys are probably right.  She probably just needs work on her form more and to practice more.  Thanks.

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Re: 14 lb. vs. 15 lb.
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2016, 08:29:19 AM »
Women throwing 15, and here I am throwing 14 :(
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Re: 14 lb. vs. 15 lb.
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2016, 09:23:12 AM »
Get rid of the brace! They restrict wrist turn.  Try to get more lift with the fingers at release point.  Some of the best bowlers do not have a lot of rotation, but they Do lift the ball with the fingers at release.

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Re: 14 lb. vs. 15 lb.
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2016, 10:23:36 AM »
One option to try and match ball weight for her is to get a few house balls from say 12 to 15lbs.

Have her stand there with her arms down by her side. Then have her bend her bowling arm at the elbow forward with her hand facing palm up at a 90 degree angle. ( L shape)

Now set a 12lb ball in the palm of her hand and see if she can hold it comfortably without straining. If so then move up to 13,14,15 to see at what weight she starts to struggle holding the ball one handed in her palm.

You want to go with the heaviest weight she can comfortably do this with.
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Re: 14 lb. vs. 15 lb.
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2016, 10:39:58 AM »
^^ this ^^

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Re: 14 lb. vs. 15 lb.
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2016, 11:01:04 AM »
I would not be so quick to recommend getting rid of a wrist device.  It is completely dependent on a number of factors.

True, if a person has the physical ability to manipulate a release without the use of a wrist device, then that person could learn how to control their release to get more options.

But for some persons (such as myself), a wrist device can be a great asset.  I have moderate arthritis which makes it nearly impossible to keep my wrist from breaking back.  So the wrist device makes it possible for me to maintain a good position for my wrist and I am able to generate a significant amount of power using it.

There are quite a few PWBA members that use a wrist device and do very well.

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Re: 14 lb. vs. 15 lb.
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2016, 12:35:39 PM »
I would not be so quick to recommend getting rid of a wrist device.  It is completely dependent on a number of factors.

True, if a person has the physical ability to manipulate a release without the use of a wrist device, then that person could learn how to control their release to get more options.

But for some persons (such as myself), a wrist device can be a great asset.  I have moderate arthritis which makes it nearly impossible to keep my wrist from breaking back.  So the wrist device makes it possible for me to maintain a good position for my wrist and I am able to generate a significant amount of power using it.

There are quite a few PWBA members that use a wrist device and do very well.

Totally agree.  However, I would probably suggest if I were the coach to check for correct ball weight without a wrist device then add the wrist device once the ball's weight was selected.

But yes, wrist devices have their place.

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Re: 14 lb. vs. 15 lb.
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2016, 05:57:27 PM »
Wrist devices do have their place. In the pro-shop display case!

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Re: 14 lb. vs. 15 lb.
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2016, 08:39:38 PM »
Wrist devices do have their place. In the pro-shop display case!

This is a ridiculous statement.

I agree that you should try all options before defaulting to a wrist brace, but there are times it is a necessary device.


In response to the original poster... If 15lb is too heavy for her, a lighter weight could definitely help her improve. Like what IgniteBowling said, you want the heaviest weight but you want it to be comfortable and not add extra stress to the body

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Re: 14 lb. vs. 15 lb.
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2016, 09:12:46 PM »
Get rid of the brace! They restrict wrist turn.  Try to get more lift with the fingers at release point.  Some of the best bowlers do not have a lot of rotation, but they Do lift the ball with the fingers at release.


Use Lift? That's a bit dated.

Today's bowling has pretty much got away from the concept of using lift, because the use of lift can make today's balls react too erratically.

To quote Susie  Minshew:
"Lift is what you do to the ball to get it off the ball return."
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