Author Topic: 15 lbs. 15 oz. (Read 6946 times)

golfnutFL · « **on:** May 29, 2008, 03:36:45 PM »

Is this a 16 lb ball? Or, is this a 15# or 16# 2nd quality?

It doesn't seem right to me that this is a first quality 16# ball, as it was presented to me.

Also, I have owned about 6 LevRG, Nsane LevRG and Solid LevRG. All of them had the three digit code on the label on the box (on the side listing ball, ball weight, pin and tw) match the the first three digits (letters or numbers) match EXACTLY with the ball in the box.

This particular ball does not match. The first two letters match the ball but the third does not. I am suspicious that this is not the original box of the ball. Please let me know your thoughts.

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golfnutFL · « **Reply #1 on:** May 30, 2008, 12:05:36 AM »

Are you relevant? Or just a jack-off wasting my time?

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golfnutFL · « **Reply #2 on:** May 30, 2008, 12:08:43 AM »

Also, are you a complete useless troll? Why are you responding without an answer that somewhat resembles intelligence?

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BigWillyStyle · « **Reply #3 on:** May 30, 2008, 12:08:45 AM »

I would believe what you described to be a "heavy" 15# ball. They are normally called this ( or half-weights) since oce you punch finger/thumb holes they are more towards the 15 lb 7-9 oz area (which is kinda halfway between 15 and 16. The seller could've referred to it as a 16#, as some might feel that 1 oz doesn't make a difference.

A perfect example is the Visionary stuff I just got in. My Frankie May Gryphon is 15.10 lbs. Once fingers/thumb are drilled, my ball will be below 15#...bt would that mean 'm throwing 14#?

I would just try not to drill the fingers/thumb deeper than needed.

As for the box not matching? I couldn't really help you on that. I only own 1 Mo ball, and never payed any attention to the Onslaught's box.

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Is this a 16 lb ball? Or, is this a 15# or 16# 2nd quality?

It doesn't seem right to me that this is a first quality 16# ball, as it was presented to me.

Also, I have owned about 6 LevRG, Nsane LevRG and Solid LevRG. All of them had the three digit code on the label on the box (on the side listing ball, ball weight, pin and tw) match the the first three digits (letters or numbers) match EXACTLY with the ball in the box.

This particular ball does not match. The first two letters match the ball but the third does not. I am suspicious that this is not the original box of the ball. Please let me know your thoughts.

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apocalyptic_rabbit · « **Reply #4 on:** May 30, 2008, 12:11:30 AM »

I think what he is trying to say. Is that 15, 15 is not illegal in anyway, and pin length and top weights can be confirmed by a pro shop.

so whats the issue?

if its a "private" sale get the guy to knock a bit off the price to ease your mind, if its a proshop sale, he should be able too / should have more in stock.

if you already own it and are having concerns get it double checked. and If your truly that worried. walk away.

Not saying he wasn't a jerk. but that was my initial thought.

I have seen balls that are 16 lbs 2 oz. that doesn't make them illegal or blems. espcially since after drilling it should be fine.
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BrunsNick · « **Reply #5 on:** May 30, 2008, 12:29:34 AM »

15-15 = 1st

1 ounce?! C'mon now.

It is very possible that the ball has gone from distributor to retailer to distributor to consumer and been mixed up in the box along the way. A lot of times shops don't keep the original boxes. (I don't after I inspect the ball and put it on display)
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mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #6 on:** May 30, 2008, 12:59:09 AM »

I would also say it's a 1 st the heaviest 16 I have ever found was 16 lb 2 oz before drilling, so a 3 ounce variance would be right inline.

When they get to mid weight then they are blems like 15 lb 9 oz - 15 lb 12 oz area, but only becuase of the odd weight. These balls tend to go for nothing on ebay and after drilling a 15 lb 9 oz ball i could not tell the difference.

J_Mac · « **Reply #7 on:** May 30, 2008, 05:28:36 AM »

With balls that don't fall at their proper weight, such as one that is 15# 15oz. I want to check to make sure the balls are not smaller in diameter than a normal new ball.

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jls · « **Reply #8 on:** May 30, 2008, 09:35:42 AM »

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Is this a 16 lb ball? Or, is this a 15# or 16# 2nd quality?

It doesn't seem right to me that this is a first quality 16# ball, as it was presented to me.

Also, I have owned about 6 LevRG, Nsane LevRG and Solid LevRG. All of them had the three digit code on the label on the box (on the side listing ball, ball weight, pin and tw) match the the first three digits (letters or numbers) match EXACTLY with the ball in the box.

This particular ball does not match. The first two letters match the ball but the third does not. I am suspicious that this is not the original box of the ball. Please let me know your thoughts.

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Sir, i believe USBC rules state anything over 12oz. goes to the next wieght.
A 15Lbs. 15 oz ball is a 16 lbs.
A 14lbs. 13 oz ball is a 15 lbs.
A 14lbs. 11 oz ball is a 14 lbs.
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shelley · « **Reply #9 on:** May 30, 2008, 09:38:36 AM »

I would never call a 15# 15oz ball a "heavy 15". It's not even close. A heavy 15 would be 5-8oz over 15#, not 1oz less than 16#. Would you call a 14# 15oz ball a 14#? Never. Because a ball cannot weigh more than 16# after drilling, most 16# are 15# 14oz to 16# 3oz.

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BigWillyStyle · « **Reply #10 on:** May 30, 2008, 09:41:48 AM »

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I would never call a 15# 15oz ball a "heavy 15". It's not even close. A heavy 15 would be 5-8oz over 15#, not 1oz less than 16#. Would you call a 14# 15oz ball a 14#? Never. Because a ball cannot weigh more than 16# after drilling, most 16# are 15# 14oz to 16# 3oz.

SH

Which is exactly why I said that a ball that ends up 15lb. 9oz after drilling. That is just my personal opinion...not necessarily the same for the manufacturers.

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shelley · « **Reply #11 on:** May 30, 2008, 10:08:54 AM »

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Which is exactly why I said that a ball that ends up 15lb. 9oz after drilling. That is just my personal opinion...not necessarily the same for the manufacturers.

You're gonna take 6oz out of a ball during drilling? No way. 3oz typical, maybe 4oz if you need a weight hole. To take out 6oz during drilling, you'd have to drill five finger holes and use an auger to drill the weight hole.

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golfnutFL · « **Reply #12 on:** May 30, 2008, 11:33:16 PM »

Nick,

I just switched back to 16 lbs after 4-5 years of throwing 15 lbs. I ordered about 15 balls and this was the only one that wasn't at least 16-0 and it was the ONLY one that didn't come in the original box. So, IMHO, it was a valid question. But thanks for your response that you don't always have the original boxes either, at least I now know that it's not uncommon, because in my experience it just doesn't happen. And I buy 20-25 balls a year.

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15-15 = 1st

1 ounce?! C'mon now.

It is very possible that the ball has gone from distributor to retailer to distributor to consumer and been mixed up in the box along the way. A lot of times shops don't keep the original boxes. (I don't after I inspect the ball and put it on display)
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golfnutFL · « **Reply #13 on:** May 30, 2008, 11:36:40 PM »

My question wasn't about "using" it. My question was one I felt was valid after buying lots of bowling balls. When I used 15 lbs I NEVER received a 14 lb 15 oz ball- hence the question.

It's not about the "numbers", it was really about whether or not this was a first quality ball- got it now?

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Nutz, I will try to reply to your ignorant post is a manner you can understand.

Sorry, I can't think of any way to respond to such an asinine, ignorant post. Your question ranks right up there with......., sorry I can't even find any post that compares with yours in total uselessness(hummmm, wonder if that's a real word).

My question was in good faith. I thought if it was "round" and you had any bowling experience, maybe you could use it anyway.

You just keep checking those numbers. They are a real help.

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golfnutFL · « **Reply #14 on:** May 30, 2008, 11:45:58 PM »

I prefer ball "tester" or "experimenter". I don't collect sh*t. I like to try out a lot of different stuff and many buyers on e-bay benefit by getting a ball from me with 3-5 games on it for cheap.

And now I'm not a bowler. Christ, I'm pushing 46, I bowl for fun, I bowl in multiple leagues, I buy/sell 20/25 balls a year, I've averaged over 200 for 25 years (and at some point that meant something). I had my years of tournament bowling but that was more than 20 years ago. And I post all of this sh*t for Deadbrains to critique though you can't bother to post your own profile, yet you yap at me about mine. Freakin' hypocrite.

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Hey, Nutz, I see by your profile that you're a ball "collector". Keep looking, there's bound to be one that will make you a bowler. I hear there's one out now that's "radio controlled". It would fit well in your "arsenal".

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