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avabob

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2 Biggest myths in bowling
« on: August 09, 2011, 06:29:12 AM »
First myth:  Increased entry angle decreases deflection to optimize carry.


 


Second myth:  House shots reward crankers who spray the ball.

 

Comments or alternative opinions?


 


 


 
Edited by avabob on 8/9/2011 at 2:36 PM

 

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Re: 2 Biggest myths in bowling
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 02:38:50 PM »
#1 I missed my target.   

#2 I dropped my shoulder.


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Re: 2 Biggest myths in bowling
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 03:10:12 PM »
#1 Your feet are too fast.
 
#2 Your feet are too slow. 
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Re: 2 Biggest myths in bowling
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 03:29:33 PM »
1 my stomach got in the way

 

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Re: 2 Biggest myths in bowling
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 03:44:57 PM »
Bob: your first myth-I feel that increased angle optimizes carry on off hits. Not necessarily on good hits.

 

Second myth-I think lighter/shorter house shots reward not only the crankers, but the lower rev players as well. These patterns in turn, make it harder for the tweeners to keep up with the crankers and low rev players. On the other hand, a longer/heavier house shot actually rewards the tweeners and makes it tougher for the others.

 

Also, let me assume by reward, you mean higher scores.



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Re: 2 Biggest myths in bowling
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2011, 05:19:55 PM »

 
djones wrote on 8/9/2011 3:44 PM:
Bob: your first myth-I feel that increased angle optimizes carry on off hits. Not necessarily on good hits.

 

Second myth-I think lighter/shorter house shots reward not only the crankers, but the lower rev players as well. These patterns in turn, make it harder for the tweeners to keep up with the crankers and low rev players. On the other hand, a longer/heavier house shot actually rewards the tweeners and makes it tougher for the others.

 

Also, let me assume by reward, you mean higher scores.


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Re: 2 Biggest myths in bowling
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2011, 07:34:59 PM »
Some elaboration on my post. 

It seems to be a pretty common assumption that entry angle is key to carry.  In truth deflection is decreased by the release of rotational energy.  Entry angle created by the release of rotational energy is a by product.

 

  A ball entering the pocket at 6 degrees deflects the same amount as a ball entering at 2 degrees, all other factors being equal.  The  increase in the entry angle changes the angle of deflection by the same amount.  My point can be demonstrated by several every day observations.  Watch a ball that still has rotational energy recovering to the pocket from 12 board at 45 feet. Compare the reaction to a ball recovering from 8 board that has lost its energy turning the corner but still gets to the same place in the pocket.  The ball that is still releasing energy combats deflection and is more likely to carry the 10 off the wall.  The ball that has burned is a prime candidate for a weak 10, and is also the most common cause of the blowout 7-10 on a bit lighter hit when when entry angle is achieved but burn out has occurred.    

 

As for the second myth, a bit more subjective, but still true I think.   No pattern rewards inconsistent releases.  A wall my not punish inconsistency nearly as much as a flatter pattern,  but that is totally different than rewarding inconsistency.  A wall rewards more extreme forms of release such as high rev rates and big hooks, but if you take two players of the same style, the one making the most consistent shots wins.  What we often don't notice when a so called wild cranker is scoring well is that he may very well be making pretty consistent shots on that  night, even though he is not capable of it night in and night out.   Most extreme crankers with very high averages repeat their shots very well, but aren't capable of adjusting to patterns that require more direct angles. 



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Re: 2 Biggest myths in bowling
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2011, 12:45:14 AM »
You do not need more entry angle, but the right one, and a proper ball motion at the point of ball entry into the pin deck. You need forward roll to drive the ball through the pocket and the king pin, with a correct angle. Too much angle, and you leave washouts and wide open splits. Too little and you have VERY little room for error, leaving corner pins or also wide splits.

 

House shots reward everyone, not only crankers. Their ball reaction is just the most obvious - but put a zero rev player with a spinning release on a THS, and the pattern creates enough friction for the ball to get into a roll and bump off of the Great Wall of China.

Crankers get immediately "punished" when the heads fade away - the ball will literally run away. With low oil volumes these days, this happens surprisingly quickly, esp. when you have lots of traffic and sponge balls.

 

IMHO, both myths do not stand any reliable test and are just rants from suckers who cannot adjust their game.


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