Author Topic: 2 handers (Read 3020 times)

echidapus · « **on:** March 29, 2009, 11:13:52 AM »

Now that the big aussie won there is more talk about 2 handed bowling. What I keep reading is that it takes a toll on the body.

Question: how?

biomechanically how does it take it's toll? I believe it actually makes bowling more of a sport. You have to have strength, flexibility and stability throughout. There is much greater athleticism throwing 2 handed than 1 handed.

btw I am a 1 handed bowler converting to 2 hands for fun this summer

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best game. when I was 6 I bowled a 158

I have a 16# morich awesome finish I want to trade. 1 season on it. I am looking for 15# stuff

echidapus · « **Reply #1 on:** March 29, 2009, 07:28:13 PM »

Golfers retire at what age? If you workout and maintain your athleticism and stay fit, you should be able to bowl 2 handed forever.

Does anyone here workout for bowling?

Krakken · « **Reply #2 on:** March 29, 2009, 07:34:04 PM »

Unless you slam the ball down you have to bend over more. More strain on your hips, back, and shoulders. Watch the view of him from the front. His back is almost parallel to the approach.

Staying in shape will help, but when you have to bowl as many games a week as the PBA guys do, even staying in shape will only do so much.

Belmo is a great bowler, but he won't last much past age 35 bowling like that.

Golf doesn't put nearly as much strain on your hips and shoulders as bowling. And PGA guys have to walk 5 1/2 miles every day during a round. They are working out while playing. Bowlers sit more than they walk. Muscles are working off and on all day.
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echidapus · « **Reply #3 on:** March 29, 2009, 07:40:11 PM »

Walking won't keep you in shape for golf.

Bowling isn't an athleticism sport for the most part. Do any bowlers go to the gym to workout for bowling.

Bending forward and rotating etc. will be fine if you train your body to do so. Those that probably get hurt that throw the ball and never workout. If anything I can picture the knee hurting from planting. The femur will be trying to go over the tibia.

I am talking about the league bowler that bowls 10 games or less a week. The two hander should be able to sustain longevity.

SrKegler · « **Reply #4 on:** March 29, 2009, 07:42:25 PM »

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Now that the big aussie won there is more talk about 2 handed bowling. What I keep reading is that it takes a toll on the body.

Question: how?

biomechanically how does it take it's toll? I believe it actually makes bowling more of a sport. You have to have strength, flexibility and stability throughout. There is much greater athleticism throwing 2 handed than 1 handed.

btw I am a 1 handed bowler converting to 2 hands for fun this summer
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High game 300, 298(no middle finger) 290, 290(no middle finger)
High series 804
High triplicate 774
High average 221
best game. when I was 6 I bowled a 158

I'm still trying to figure out how you get a triplicate 774

I have a 16# morich awesome finish I want to trade. 1 season on it. I am looking for 15# stuff

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bowlerdawg · « **Reply #5 on:** March 29, 2009, 07:44:53 PM »

I read the article about 2 handed longevity, and the jury is still out.
No definitive proof exist that it will wear you out pre-maturely.

Belmo makes it look smooth though imo, and congrats to him on his victory today
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charlest · « **Reply #6 on:** March 29, 2009, 07:47:15 PM »

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Walking won't keep you in shape for golf.

Bowling isn't an athleticism sport for the most part. Do any bowlers go to the gym to workout for bowling.

When you're swinging an 15 - 16 lb weight from one side of your body, time after time, you bet your sweet *ss it's athleticism. You'll find out sooner or later.

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charlest · « **Reply #7 on:** March 29, 2009, 07:48:12 PM »

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Golfers retire at what age? If you workout and maintain your athleticism and stay fit, you should be able to bowl 2 handed forever.

But you're not going to do that. You're just not. You say you will now, but you won't.

Reality is a bitter pill to swallow.
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echidapus · « **Reply #8 on:** March 29, 2009, 07:51:09 PM »

not going to do what?

good point about swinging the ball from one side of your body. that will put great pressure on your body. so 2 handed in theory is safer for your back b/c you have greater support of the bowling ball?

SrKegler · « **Reply #9 on:** March 29, 2009, 07:57:35 PM »

As some of you may have noticed, math is not my strong suit.
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Buddy Christ · « **Reply #10 on:** March 29, 2009, 08:00:12 PM »

quote:
not going to do what?

good point about swinging the ball from one side of your body. that will put great pressure on your body. so 2 handed in theory is safer for your back b/c you have greater support of the bowling ball?

You may eliminate some stress points, but you put greater pressure on others.
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Krakken · « **Reply #11 on:** March 29, 2009, 08:14:56 PM »

quote:
I read the article about 2 handed longevity, and the jury is still out.
No definitive proof exist that it will wear you out pre-maturely.

Belmo makes it look smooth though imo, and congrats to him on his victory today
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Smooth? I thought the opposite. He looks real jerky to me, especially the steps on the approach.
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Slow Feet, Soft hand = Lots of strikes

bowlerdawg · « **Reply #12 on:** March 29, 2009, 08:56:11 PM »

welp, you are entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine ^^^^^^

just so happens yours is the WRONG one...........
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JessN16 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 29, 2009, 09:32:02 PM »

Strictly on the subject of bowling's athletic component, it is considered enough of an isometric exercise that I've known doctors to actually prescribe it as an exercise regimen.

As to the impact of two-handed bowling, I'd like to see someone freeze-frame Belmonte's pose just as he begins his follow-through. I don't see any more pronounced tilt there than I see in a golfer when he's at the highest point of his backswing, especially if the golfer is using some variant of the stack-and-tilt.

As to the weight-carrying aspect, he's essentially carrying 8 pounds per hand. I personally think he'll be fine as long as he stays in shape.

The knees are what eventually get most of us, and that's a consideration either in the one- or two-handed style.

Jess

Edited on 3/29/2009 9:32 PM

bowlerdawg · « **Reply #14 on:** March 29, 2009, 09:36:04 PM »

ty jess for being a voice of truth and reson
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