Is anyone currently using the venom toxin? I like the look of the ball and the specs, however i have not seen one person use or even own it in my area. How is the bowling ball over all ?

Yep, I have the Venom Toxin. It's a very good all around medium oil piece. With a pin up drill, it gets good length with nice recovery on the backend. I've been able to successfully use the Toxin on THS and lighter volume Sport Shots.


I find the Toxin to be more versatile than the Thrash Frenzy. The Toxin has become my new benchmark ball in the Motiv line.

I see the same thing, very versatile piece rolls real nice.

Thanks, i might pick one up. do you think it will work best with oob cover, or can i change the cover for different conditions. I recently started dulling down some of my covers not drastically but its been great and not so skid snap.

Thanks, i might pick one up. do you think it will work best with oob cover, or can i change the cover for different conditions. I recently started dulling down some of my covers not drastically but its been great and not so skid snap.

To answer your question yes you can certainly tune this coverstock based on what the bowler needs. I personally have utilized 2000 no polish, 2000 grit with Power Gel Polish (box), and 4000 grit no polish. With me being speed dominant I normally need to "break" the polish on out of box balls. I will say though that this core seems to dominate the cover. As Mr. Green said there are times where I can't use it because it does dig in too hard to the midlane.

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The Gear core that is at the heart of the Toxin is also the core used in the GT1.

The thing that I think fools people is yes it has low differential for a modern core at approximately 0.034 (15 lb), but at the same time the RG value is on the low end 2.48.

So what I see from these numbers is a very fast revving move in the front part of the lane and a smoother, more subtle transition down lane. I think that we are so used to seeing these big low RG asymmetrical cores rev up and flip that when something is a bit smoother in the same RG class it tricks one's eyes.