Author Topic: I too feel mumzie's pain!!! (Read 1853 times)

HamPster · « **on:** September 17, 2003, 10:51:50 AM »

And so did everyone else on my pair tonight. Typical adult bumper bowling league (albeit very dry), 700's all over the place around us. Now here's the deal. After an admittedly rough night last night, I thought I'd get the same tonight. But I was hitting my marks tonight (after dumbing it down and going back to the basics), and hitting the pocket flush. All that flush just made it swirl right down the toilet. First game I went solid 8, double, screw up (my fault, I could handle it) strike, another solid 8, ring 10, 8-10 (mind you, this ball had so much power into the pocket I just KNEW it was gonna be a 9) strike, ring 10, 6 count (fill ball) for a nice 183. Should have been 260-something, with only that open in the fourth. Next game. Double, bad shot, spared, turkey, something, ring 10, stuck and flagged it, split, ring 10, 8 count (fill ball) for 190. Should have been at LEAST 230. Last game I pulled out a different ball. Strike, back to back ring 10's, then I switched to plastic, and after I got a washout, I struck, the next one nosedived, then I spared, got a double, and spare (gee, another 10 pin . )struck for 180. Should have gotten fined probably 3 different times. One time on a ball change, I took the new ball, and as soon as the one I'd been throwing came back on the ball return, I smacked it off and let it roll around. The second time I kicked the ball return capping. The third time I took a ball back to my bag, and my bag happened to be sitting right in front of one of the circular house ball racks, and I overshot my bag a little, clanged the ball rack, and let that one roll around too. Never been that frustrated. After such a terrible night the night before to come in and have a positive attitude and turn my game around completely, I shot at LEAST a hundred pins lower than I should have.

But wait, that's not all. Everybody was hitting the pocket tonight. I saw maybe one 4 pin, and 2 7's. Here's the good stuff. 3 7-10's, my 8-10, a 7-9, 5 8's, 2 9's, at least a dozen 10's (sharp backends, maybe two of them were flat) and a couple weird splits. Watching a medium speed medium rev guy leave a 7-9 is something to behold. That's the first solid pocket 8-10 I've ever left, bringing my career total to 2. A couple of the 7-10's were back to back, and at least 3 more were standing until a late trip took out either one or the other. On a high note however, the third game one of my buddies on my team strung the front 10 before pulling it a little. A couple weeks ago he had the front 10 at the same house, threw a great shot and left a stone 9. He's also had the front 9 this year as well. I don't complain much about carry. I know when I deserve a 10 or a 4, but when you're left standing there speechless, and turn around to see the best of the best shaking their heads too, it's pretty disheartening. One of them had the front 6 tonight, banging them all out, and got stuck with one of the solid 8's. I believe he threw the 7-9 and 7-10 in the same game (the game before he had the front 6). Not all of us were ON, but due to the conditions, we were consistently hitting the pocket. It was the same for everybody on the pair. That made me feel better, and also justifies my point. There were two trip 4's and one messenger that took out a 10. Still, when the night was over, I was the proud owner of the best 553 I've EVER shot.
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HAH! I don't know ANYBODY now!

Being in adult leagues teaches you many things.

1. You're not on top anymore, but there are a lot more people that suck worse than you do now.

2. The myth about the youths having an easier shot is NOT TRUE. I'd have an entire ring collection if it was.

3. Drunk adults are a lot funnier than drunk youths.

Bjaardker · « **Reply #1 on:** September 18, 2003, 01:58:28 AM »

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Should have gotten fined probably 3 different times. One time on a ball change, I took the new ball, and as soon as the one I'd been throwing came back on the ball return, I smacked it off and let it roll around. The second time I kicked the ball return capping. The third time I took a ball back to my bag, and my bag happened to be sitting right in front of one of the circular house ball racks, and I overshot my bag a little, clanged the ball rack, and let that one roll around too. Never been that frustrated.

I don't care how frustrated a person gets, there is NEVER EVER an excuse for stupidity like that.

Are you sure you're not still in junior leagues?

Sorry for being so cold, but a temper tantrum like that makes me glad you did poorly. I would have sat back & laughed my butt off.

agroves · « **Reply #2 on:** September 18, 2003, 02:08:29 AM »

I won't relive what has already been said in the other post. BACK TO BASICS!BACK TO BASICS! BACK TO BASICS!

The temper tantrum is unnecessary. I used to have a horrible attitude. It is okay to get frustrated. For someone to say it isn't is insane. Anyone that is competitive will become upset it they aren't meeting their standards. My advice is don't make yourself look like a jackass. It lets your opponent know you are pissed at yourself. You have to mask it as much as possible. What I do is take a walk and get a drink of water. Even if it isn't far you can still calm down alittle. Relax, quit thinking and bowl your game.

Don't let them see you sweat.......

good luck,
andrew
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Edited on 9/18/2003 2:18 AM

Aristotle · « **Reply #3 on:** September 18, 2003, 02:19:51 AM »

It's kinda funny how fine a line some of us have to ride to really bowl well.. Generally speaking, I bowl better pissed off than I do when I'm in a really good mood.. I have absolutely no clue why I seem to be this way.. Best case that I can think of would be my highest series.. I shot an 844 and a majority of the night I was about ready to punch someone out from being so angry. One thing that I have learned to do, however, is to control my temper.. When I was quite a bit younger, I used to throw tantrums frequently, and it was only a detriment to my game..

HamPster · « **Reply #4 on:** September 18, 2003, 02:22:26 AM »

Lol, yeah, I agree. Seeing as how I didn't mean to knock the ball off the return or miss my bag (lmao), my actions weren't intended to be as chaotic as they ended up being, but I have a bad habit of never letting off steam. After I pulled out the White Dot, it was all laughs after that. And of course you've gotta laugh at the retard that's throwing a big tantrum over some dumb game, hehe, the bigger the tantrum, the funnier it is. AND, I'd been trying to get back to basics for weeks now, and only a dumb thought finally is getting me closer than I've been in a while. It's amazing the combination of smart and dumb that this game requires.
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HAH! I don't know ANYBODY now!

Being in adult leagues teaches you many things.

1. You're not on top anymore, but there are a lot more people that suck worse than you do now.

2. The myth about the youths having an easier shot is NOT TRUE. I'd have an entire ring collection if it was.

3. Drunk adults are a lot funnier than drunk youths.

Game In a BoxLC · « **Reply #5 on:** September 18, 2003, 02:36:46 AM »

this is a game, if you cant understand that, then put the balls away ,and take up something else. there is no excuse for that type of tantrum, like someone said your not in juniors, and ive seen leagues throw guys out for doing that, last thing you wanna do is get listed as a hothead early in your adult career
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am i still considered a lefty, i never get to play the left side of the lane

Strider · « **Reply #6 on:** September 18, 2003, 04:36:32 AM »

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I don't complain much about carry.
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HAH! I don't know ANYBODY now!

Being in adult leagues teaches you many things.

1. You're not on top anymore, but there are a lot more people that suck worse than you do now.

2. The myth about the youths having an easier shot is NOT TRUE. I'd have an entire ring collection if it was.

3. Drunk adults are a lot funnier than drunk youths.

Say WHAT???

No offense dude, but complaining about carry seems to be a theme for you. Closest thing to betting on the sun rising each day.

Bad carry is frustrating and I won't bother to reiterate the temper comments made already. Your job is to beat your opponent(s), not the lanes. How did your TEAM do???
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Penn State Proud ......THB with loft

The bowler (term used very lightly) formerly known as Strider

Game In a BoxLC · « **Reply #7 on:** September 18, 2003, 10:12:09 AM »

agreed. it does seem a theme you complaining about carry, if your not carrying your doing something wrong. The only true tap in bowling is an 8 or 9 pin. 10 pins are mistakes, you threw it too hard, too soft, not enough turn, something was different. 4 pins are bigger mistakes, you went high.

The flaw is with you, not the lanes, mechanic, whatever. You are flawed, if you cant deal with that or fix it, then take up another sport. When you realize this and take responsibility for bad shots, you will improve by leaps and bounds. Settle down, its a game.
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am i still considered a lefty, i never get to play the left side of the lane

C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #8 on:** September 18, 2003, 11:31:38 AM »

I have said many times just because you hit the pocket does not mean you deserve a strike. If you are leaving 7s and 10s or 7-10s then you are doing something wrong---it could be bad entry angle, or on those shots maybe you came a little light etc...

If guys are used to a walled shot and there is actually one out that makes you have to adjust or try things away from your "A" game then there must be something screwed up----no. Days like you described is why people should have a "A-B-C" game. A simple change of equipment can help sometimes, but that is not always the solution.

michelle · « **Reply #9 on:** September 18, 2003, 11:46:35 AM »

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agreed. it does seem a theme you complaining about carry, if your not carrying your doing something wrong. The only true tap in bowling is an 8 or 9 pin. 10 pins are mistakes, you threw it too hard, too soft, not enough turn, something was different. 4 pins are bigger mistakes, you went high.

The flaw is with you, not the lanes, mechanic, whatever. You are flawed, if you cant deal with that or fix it, then take up another sport. When you realize this and take responsibility for bad shots, you will improve by leaps and bounds. Settle down, its a game.

The flaw with this presumption is that it fails to take into account the number of houses with off-spot pins that can contribute to single pin leaves (or some of the designer splits). Back in the days where a lane was taken out of use after an honor score, I saw more than one association that did a wink-wink, nudge-nudge on passing the pin deck...

Yes, many single pins are because some component of the bowlers game was off on a particular shot, but sometimes it really isn't the bowler.

HamPster · « **Reply #10 on:** September 18, 2003, 12:11:19 PM »

Yeah, yeah, I understand all the stuff about bad shots and that, and with thanks to michelle for her comments, carrydown is a little bit of a factor too. But it's very noticably different. With Laneshield and new pins, the carry dramatically dropped, and it's very apparent to everyone. I don't know what it is about synthetic surfaces, but one of the new synthetic houses in the city has the same problem with carry, although off spots are common, and pretty obvious to the naked eye. And everybody knows me, as far as the tantrum goes, it's not like I went crazy or anything. I dropped my ball about 2 feet into my bag (wouldn't you know it stuck on my thumb . . ), and I didn't hit the ball on the return off on purpose. I was trying to knock it to the other side (teardrop shaped returns), I didn't hit it very hard, and it took a bad roll. Tantrums used to be kicking things and throwing things. I've calmed way down, and everyone knows that. As far as carry goes, I meant I don't normally say a lot while I'm bowling. It's just hard, like mumzie said, to watch people all around you trip 4's, kick 10's, break out of 4-9's carrying both of them. It was all around my pair last night. But for the 6 bowlers on my pair, we got NOTHING. I'm not a house bowler, I can tell the difference between a flat 10 and a good shot. You know if it has a chance right when it leaves your hand. And it's not fair to say that it's about bowling well and beating your opponent. Those two solid 8's in my first game cost me 21 pins apiece, and as far as my TEAM goes, they were having the same problems. So was the other team. I had TWO mixers last night, both with my plastic ball. I had 5 admittedly bad shots. Other than that, everything else hit the pocket, and of those, I had probably 4 or 5 flat hits. I hit flush and struck or left junk on the rest of them.
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HAH! I don't know ANYBODY now!

Being in adult leagues teaches you many things.

1. You're not on top anymore, but there are a lot more people that suck worse than you do now.

2. The myth about the youths having an easier shot is NOT TRUE. I'd have an entire ring collection if it was.

3. Drunk adults are a lot funnier than drunk youths.

Strider · « **Reply #11 on:** September 18, 2003, 08:34:09 PM »

The pin off spot comment was a good point, but you still don't get it do you Hammy?

I meant did your TEAM win more points than your opponent? That is the objective. I don't think anyone cares if both teams had a hard time carrying. If you and your teammates did a better job of keeping your heads in the games and covered your spares, you should have won the games. We've all had bad pairs (I remember having to deal with very sticky approaches last year due to some idiots spilling soda everywhere. The house did their best to clean it, but it seemed we still tracked the stuff back on the lanes). The point is both teams on that pair had to put up with the same conditions. The better TEAM was less affected.
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Penn State Proud ......THB with loft

The bowler (term used very lightly) formerly known as Strider

HamPster · « **Reply #12 on:** September 18, 2003, 10:21:35 PM »

Well, I think I said that we split the points. It's kinda hard to win when the bad carry comes at the wrong time. When you leave two 8's in the middle of a big string, and your man gets a double, then three or four spares in a row, and you're even with him through the first half of the game, that's pretty rough, especially when you're throwing good enough shots. I keep my pinky tucked, I find that it's more comfy and easier on my hand. I'm no great bowler by any stretch of the imagination, but I've got a lot more feel for the game than actual skill. I know what to do, I know what I need to do, I know how to fix things, I'm just in a slump right now where I can't actually execute well very often. I USED to be good, and that's why it's frustrating. I had Gordon Vadakan looking at me once upon a time, and now he probably wouldn't give me a second look. My boss at the shop was a great collegiate player, he was always a high finisher at nationals, he bowled for KU, he got 4th in the national youth tournament in Reno that they have every year around Christmas, and so many other awards and trophies that I don't have the room to list them here, and right now he's bowling worse than I am. Lol, we've got Leftside's (temporary) disease right now. I used to be a high finisher at sport tournaments bowling against college guys, I shot 280-742 one league week on toast with a frickin White Dot, I got second in the state Pepsi finals last year, and finished 4th in all events in the state youth tournament, and now I'm happy to hit one in a four board area. It sucks. Now I have these easy adult conditions, and can't do anything with them. Don't know what to do.
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HAH! I don't know ANYBODY now!

Being in adult leagues teaches you many things.

1. You're not on top anymore, but there are a lot more people that suck worse than you do now.

2. The myth about the youths having an easier shot is NOT TRUE. I'd have an entire ring collection if it was.

3. Drunk adults are a lot funnier than drunk youths.

Author Topic: I too feel mumzie's pain!!! (Read 1853 times)

HamPster

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