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Neptune66

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8-10 split kills me
« on: November 09, 2008, 10:09:36 PM »
What causes that particular split?

Get it at the worst possible times, and drives me nutz.

I seldom get the 7-10 or 4-6, and when I do, I take them in stride (don't make them but not emotionally upset by them). But the 8-10 infuriates me as it APPEARS to be an excellent shot with bad results. Is it a result of too much or too little speed? Too much or too little deflection? Ball sliding?

And it completely deflates me because it often happens in the later frames in the midst of a good game or one that was bad and I had turned around.

(am right-handed)



Edited on 11/10/2008 7:10 AM
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Re: 8-10 split kills me
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2008, 06:10:48 AM »
The ball has either rolled out or the ball isn't "rolling" when it hits the pins.
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Neptune66

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Re: 8-10 split kills me
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2008, 06:39:27 AM »
Ok. That would make sense. I'm usually throwing too hard, not really giving the ball a chance to roll.  Then again lately, have been encountering light oil and did not have a light oil ball with me, so balls are probably rolling out in that condition.

Another reason I need to get myself a light oil ball (something I never felt a need for before).



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Re: 8-10 split kills me
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2008, 06:54:05 AM »
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What causes that particular split?


Hey neptune,

It can either occur due to a ball rolling out or not rolling up.  Basically it is a sign of lack of driving power and/or entry angle at the point of impact.  

The ball is physically deflecting too much to the right once it hits the headpin which then makes contact with the 5 pin on the right hand side sldiing it in front of the 8 pin vs hitting it if the ball were to have the proper entry angle or driving power.  Hope this helps some...
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Neptune66

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Re: 8-10 split kills me
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2008, 10:05:04 AM »
Yes, Thanks.

That's what I was looking for.  And now that you mentioned it, usually leave the 8-10 after coming in heavy on a few shots. So... then, in my attempt to fix that, I probably overcompensate and even though it looks like a good pocket hit, it's actually on the light side.

Thanks again.  Easier said than done as far as fixing, but knowing why it's happening will help.

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jd1319

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Re: 8-10 split kills me
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 03:55:36 PM »
Just so you know, WRW said a while back he went back to 16 pound balls from 15 d/t leaving too many 8-10's.  Not saying that's the cause, but it's how he dealt with the issue.
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Neptune66

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Re: 8-10 split kills me
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2008, 10:15:22 PM »
I use both 16's and 15's, but at least till now...mostly 16's.

If anything, I seem to get the 8-10's more often with the 16's. Not sure what to make of that. Maybe I throw harder or get more revs and more of an entry angle with the 15 lb balls?

Anyway, I'm still a 16 lb guy, though lately I've had a leg injury (pushing off leg, not the one that takes the weight on delivery) and find that I'm a little tentative about throwing at full speed. That could be why I'm coming in a little light and getting more 8-10's. Ironically... Maybe I should at least temporarily (till I heal) use the 15's to generate a smidgen more speed on the delivery.

In fact... I Practiced today and threw 3 games and had zero 8-10's Yippee!!!

But was just practice and nothing much at stake. Will try to remember what I read here later in the week (in league) and even if I can't avoid the 8-10 altogether, knowing why I left it, should help me deal with it better.
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Neptune66

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Re: 8-10 split kills me
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2008, 10:32:57 PM »
Yes.

The strange part is that when I bowl a 7-10 or a 4-6, I am laughing at myself right along with everyone else. The 8-10, I take more seriously and it feels personal. As if the pins are mocking me. I know that's ridiculous, but that's the way it has been.

Till now.

I think I'll be a little less likely to be upset about it now. Disappointed/angry, yes. But am hoping now I'll just take it as a sign that I need to make an adjustment.
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Re: 8-10 split kills me
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2008, 10:43:43 PM »
at my house, i see it often, mainly due to lack of speed.

talking about pocket-splits, i had a pocket 7-10 tonight where i lost about 30 bucks.
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