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LuckyLefty

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Lane Play back row pins yet OWN the pocket
« on: March 11, 2013, 09:29:21 AM »
This weekend I bowled in a tourney.

My perception was it was a steep from front to back narrow 42 foot Christmas tree!  2nd arrow players were dead on both sides!

Being comfortable deeper I went with my high pin up AMF Shred It.  I had been shredding and annhilating the racks at this house in practice sessions at this house on dryer leftovers playing 4th arrow.

Yesterday on fresher the shot for me was standing 30 throwing 14/15 and rack after rack I would rip and 6 pins and 8 pins and 6 8 rained down on me from what my eyes thought were great hits.  With tremendous energy retention from this high energy sleeper ball(I love it).

I ended up swithching to a less pin up Loaded Revolver(I had been hanging in practice using it and was scared to try), This smoother performer then wouldn't stop striking but alas, too late!

What could have made the Shred it's more Angular move work?  A 1 and 1 inside move?  A 2 and 1 move?

Lane play experts?  Any ideas?

Regards,

Luckylefty
PS I did try moving up a bit and results were mixed to mediocre.
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Re: Lane Play back row pins yet OWN the pocket
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2013, 10:12:45 AM »
Personally, with that type of reaction, I would have went with a little surface. Start it up to get a different angle to the pocket. With that being said, you can't change the surface during competition, so I would have straightened out my angle a little through the fronts, and try to get behind it more.

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Re: Lane Play back row pins yet OWN the pocket
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2013, 10:41:20 AM »
Yes,  A lefty near me had struggled mightily the first game and then staying with her strong Lucid she went 24X and 21X going to about 25 to 30 degrees axis rotation.

I have been practicing that a little on strike balls lately and just decided I wasn't quite ready for prime time in this weaker wrist position yet.  The smoother ball worked and would have killed for most of it with normal strike ball.

Still curious,  it just seemed the wider one got at the apex in the dry of the Chrismas tree, say 11 instead of 12, or 12 vs 13 the more likelyhood of a back row?

More thoughts from our experts?

Thanks,

Luckylefty
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Re: Lane Play back row pins yet OWN the pocket
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2013, 11:27:52 AM »
As a fellow lefty that can move right of 2nd arrow, i can tell you that the more boards you cover, the more likely you are to leave the back row. You are making the ball go longer than necessary and the result is either the ball slicing thru the pins, leaving the wrap 7 or 8 or the ball puking leaving the 9, 10, or the 4 pushing out flat and leaving 7.

Normally a pin down or large sum layout will result in better carry. The conditions arent conducive to covering boards and hooking the ball. So staying close to the friction and getting the ball to "face up" sooner will result in better carry.

Perhaps a bit of surface will make your shred-it roll better from deeper in. Realize that moving in encounters more oil which is the enemy of a polished surface. So a 3000 pad or lower will definitely help.
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Re: Lane Play back row pins yet OWN the pocket
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2013, 12:39:47 PM »
I suspect that due to the nature of the oil pattern, the Shred-It was never a good choice with its current drilling and current surface.

From your description, I'd suggest that either the pattern was shorter than you thought OR they applied more oil in the heads and the midlane, which made the backends over-react, more like a PBA pattern, which provided for a lot of backend from most balls.

As far as the Shred-it goes, you probably needed either an earlier rolling drilling and/or a more surface. More surface by itself might have made the ball hook too much.

The Loaded Revolver might have allowed the shot to come to you by the 2nd or 3rd game, if it weren't good from the start.

Some of these patterns can easily fool the eye, when in practice & warm-ups, the ball in our hand seems so perfect. Often we're not fully warmed up and are not throwing the ball with our proper release and ball speed. Once the games starts in earnest, that ball is not so perfect any more. We've all been fooled in that way, one time or another.
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Re: Lane Play back row pins yet OWN the pocket
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2013, 06:14:37 PM »
Hmmmm,

A lot to think about.  In practice I loved the reaction of Loaded on the one shot that nearly dislocated my shoulder.  But I was  "ascared".

The quicker surface and angularity of the Shred IT seemed to really pounce and attack off the dry!  The dry looking dry looked even  dryer the wider one got till about board 11.  I don't know if there was much element of sport as I never found that out of bounds element to the shot.  (many playing near the second arrow seemed to find that element to the shot)

In talking to my pro he thought that I should have tried a 1 and 1 parallel move.  Never did that.  A little "ascared" as my ball looked like an explosive boomerang off the break!  Did try moving up once or twice and ...well it didn't end up looking as good as the smoothy Loaded Revolver.

As to length,,,,?  it seemed it was not a short pattern but a steep pattern or as the other bowlers described it.  A very narrow Christmas tree at the back.  With sparky friction in the 10 11 area!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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