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Coolerman

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Bowling vs Golf
« on: July 18, 2010, 12:32:51 AM »
Bowling vs Golf

For Years, the PGA has been much more popular than the PBA in terms of TV ratings. I'm here to ask the question: why?

Bowling is the number one recreational sport in the country. Let's look at numbers posted by USAWeekend.com in a September, 2007 article:

Last year, approximately 45 million Americans went bowling, up 32% over the past 20 years, when 34 million people a year visited bowling alleys, according to the National Sporting Goods Association. Even though more people are bowling now, the biggest rise is among infrequent bowlers, who bowl just two to nine times per year. In 1986, infrequent bowlers made up 27.5% of those who bowled; last year, there were 43.6% infrequent bowlers. There were 2.7 million bowling league members in the United States.

The following information was obtained from a Market Analysis Project done at the University of Oklahoma:

Last year there were 23 million golfers. There are a fairly equal number of males and females that participate in bowling; however, golfers are much more likely to be male. Bowlers are generally younger (especially from 18-24), while golfers are more likely to be older (50+). Golf seems to have grown in popularity over the past several years, while bowling has received very little attention in the media during this same period of time.

That last sentence is so true....but again I ask....why? Is golf that much more of a ratings draw....or is it that no one will give bowling a chance to succeed on TV? In the 70's, before cable TV, everyone flocked to their TV sets to watch the PBA on Saturday afternoons with Chris Schenkel and Nelson Burton Jr. doing the play by play. What happened that bowling suddenly became unpopular while golf seemed to become more popular.... at least on TV? Bowling is on ESPN at 1pm on Sunday afternoons....opposite the mighty NFL. What kind of ratings do you think the PBA gets going up against the NFL? As far as I'm concerned, the PGA has a few notable golfers: Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson, and John Daly. Does anyone watch any of the tournaments if those three aren't participating? I doubt it. What does the PGA have (besides those stars) that the PBA doesn't? Perhaps if the world got to know Pete Weber, Walter Ray Williams, and Norm Duke, fans would want to follow their careers as well as those of the PGA golfers. But none of the major networks is willing to give bowling another chance. Again, I will ask....why not?

Professional bowling started to lose viewers as college football started becoming more popular. The fact is that PBA bowling needed to find another time slot so that fans could watch football and bowling. Instead, bowling was pushed aside by the networks and left for dead. ESPN took bowling in, but again, the PBA finds itself up against football again...but now it's the NFL they square off against. That's not a recipe for success.

Let's look at some interesting facts. As mentioned above, 45 million people bowl, while only 23 million people golf each year. But it's golf we see on TV all weekend. Bowling is more popular among younger Americans...the same demographic that advertisers try to reach. Yet it is golf, and not bowling that we see on TV each weekend. Golf costs anywhere from $30-75 a round to play. You can bowl about ten games for the price of one golf round. That's why more people bowl than play golf. You don't have to be rich to go bowling. But it's golf we see on TV all weekend. There are 2.7 bowling league members. Are there even any golf leagues out there? In fact, there are...but nowhere near the number of bowling leagues to participate in. Yet it's golf we see on TV all weekend. In golf, a guy sinks a put, and he gives the obligatory or polite hand wave to the crowd. More often than not, it is ingenuous, and in many cases, the crowd isn't even acknowledged. In bowling, you've got the fist pumping, the loud crowds, and the bowlers actually have and share their personality on the lanes. Bowling, along with tennis and boxing, are the only sports that pit athlete against athlete. Why doesn't bowling appeal to network executives as golf does?.

Unfortunately, until a network or cable station takes a risk, PBA bowling may be stuck, and eventually become extinct. The PBA Public Relations staff has to step up and do more to increase the exposure of bowling. Pulling in new sponsors here and there helps...but simply won't cut it. They need to find a way to work out something with ESPN, so that PBA bowling will be as publicized as the BASS professional fishing has been over the past few years. ESPN sure put much more into promoting fishing than professional bowling. When Sunday's Football Countdown ends at 1pm, and bowling is about to go on the air, Chris Berman usually has a wise-ass crack that almost puts the PBA down. How wrong is that? When is the last time you've seen a bowling highlight on SportsCenter? Bowling is an event that is televised on ESPN, yet the same network won't show highlights or results on their own sports highlight show. I'm sure the PBA was grateful that ESPN took them in when no one else wanted them, but times change, and it's time for the PBA to look for a new TV partner...one that won't mind and in fact, help promote the sport. There was a network out there that took a chance with WWE wrestling, and that seems to have worked out pretty well. Why not take a chance with bowling? And I find it difficult to believe that people across the country would rather watch American Gladiators than a professional bowling tournament.

Unfortunately, it's not just television that has hurt the PBA....it is bowling centers as well. How often have you walked into a bowling alley...and instead of seeing professional bowling on TV, you see a football game or a Nascar race...or worse yet: golf? What's wrong with that picture? Are bowling alleys showing the results from each weekly televised tournament? Are they even promoting the tournaments? The answer to that question is no. More people are buying bowling equipment each year, yet sporting good stores such as Dick's or Sports Authority are catering to golfers, with a quarter of their store being used to sell golfing equipment and clothing. At a local Dick's Sporting Goods store, there was half of one aisle that had bowling shoes and towels, and that was it. Even the local Walmart has stopped selling bowling equipment.

The PBA needs an overhaul from top to bottom. The PBA owners are trying to make the sport work, but they clearly need PR help...and an infusion of cash. That's not an easy accomplishment. Perhaps a Bowling channel would work, just as the Golf Channel has worked out, but no one would dare attempt such a project with bowling. Advertisers may be missing the boat, but we'll never know unless the PBA moves to another TV spot/channel. I believe bowling can once again be as popular on TV as golf. It simply won't be given an opportunity, which is a shame.


 

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Re: Bowling vs Golf
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2010, 09:00:37 AM »
This has been discussed ad infinitum.  Nothing new here.  


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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2010, 09:53:30 AM »
You need to look no further than the way each sport has presented themselves as a whole throughout history. Golf has been widely acknowledged as a gentlemens game worldwide, forever. In turn guys who like to go out and smoke and drink were linked to bowling, which seems like forever. Bowling need to shake the poor image that has plagued them forever. There is money to be made in the sport of bowling, the question is who or what is going to step p and show someone how to do it. That person or that company that learns how to market the sport will flourish....


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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2010, 01:27:55 PM »
No bowling has become more expensive than golf....that is where the problem is.

30 years ago a decent bowler needed one or two bowling balls that cost 30% of what they cost now.  That ball would last for years, needing only some minor surface maintanence.

Now to be even competitive in league you need 3 or 4 balls, all costing upwards of $200, each will die in 80 games and need to be replaced, even with regular maintanence.

I have owned the same set of Mizuno MP 32s, Titleist 983k driver, Vokey wedges, and Scotty Cameron putter for 5 years, total cost of $700.  They will probably last me at least 5-7 more years, and then all that will be replaced will be the wedges and driver.

In that same time I have gone through about 20 bowling balls at a cost of $200 a piece.

Golf can be played for $25 no sweat, most bowling tournaments cost upwards of $80 to $100 to play now.

Bowling manufacturers need only look inward at the demise of the sport.
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Re: Bowling vs Golf
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2010, 01:50:27 PM »
Well Russell do you think those 5 yr old Mizuno's are hittin like a brand new set of Nike irons....I DONT THINK SO...just cause you choose not to buy new clubs doesnt mean you dont have to. There are new clubs out every year just like bowling balls and if your and avid golfer you will break club heads and such and likely every 2 yrs have to buy new ones. So the game of golf can be quite pricey also,if not more. It all depends on what you are willing to spend on yourself...

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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2010, 02:42:32 PM »
This is a very poor analogy IMO.  If you are golfing regularly, (more than once a week), playing 9 or more holes, there''s no way it is more expensive than bowling.  

Your 5-7 year old set of clubs will never be as good as the new equipment that is available.  You chose to keep those old clubs because you probably don''t want to spend the money or cannot afford a brand new set of clubs.  The cost of clubs is the main reason why I only have ONE club.    And I only go to the driving range.  Then there''s the cost to play a round of golf.  Whether 9 or 18 holes.  (unsure of the cost because a bucket of balls costs me $4)

The 5 balls I have now, Roto-Grip Riot, Darkstar, Mars, Grenade, spare, total cost was a little less than $500.  These 5 balls will last me the entire summer and winter league season and whatever tournaments I decide to enter.  Shoes, SSTs, I have had for 2 years and cost me $150.  Cost per game, I am fortunate to bowl for free on the Marine Corps base near me, 3 days a week.  League Fees for 2 leagues is $40.  If you take care of your equipment the right way, you won''t have to replace after 80 games.  I bowl 3 times a week, 10 games each day.  30 games a week, 4 weeks in a month is 120 games.  

What you choose to spend on bowling equipment or golf equipment is not IMO the average for bowlers/golfers.  You made the trade off to spend more money on bowling equipment than your golf equipment.  Probably because you bowl more than you golf.

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No bowling has become more expensive than golf....that is where the problem is.

30 years ago a decent bowler needed one or two bowling balls that cost 30% of what they cost now.  That ball would last for years, needing only some minor surface maintanence.

Now to be even competitive in league you need 3 or 4 balls, all costing upwards of $200, each will die in 80 games and need to be replaced, even with regular maintanence.

I have owned the same set of Mizuno MP 32s, Titleist 983k driver, Vokey wedges, and Scotty Cameron putter for 5 years, total cost of $700.  They will probably last me at least 5-7 more years, and then all that will be replaced will be the wedges and driver.

In that same time I have gone through about 20 bowling balls at a cost of $200 a piece.

Golf can be played for $25 no sweat, most bowling tournaments cost upwards of $80 to $100 to play now.

Bowling manufacturers need only look inward at the demise of the sport.
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2010, 03:05:19 PM »
Cost of equipment is not the case. Bowling pushes new equipment like there is no tomorrow. You can get by with two bowling balls, but most choose to buy more. Golf equipment holds up much longer over the long haul and really only needs to be changed based on your skill level not the ware and tear of the clubs. So for many they may never need a newer set of clubs. Bowling balls will suffer more ware and tear and usually the proshops answer/suggestion is a new bowling ball.

This isn't the problem of the sport and viewers.

The answer lies in that golf got a huge ratings increase with Tiger Woods. He became the biggest thing in ALL OF SPORTS. He did this playing golf, and not bowling. Golf had good prize funds before him and then those funds became huge. With Tiger came Nike golf. With Nike golf came younger fans, with younger fans came more corporate sponsors, with more sponsors came more money. More viewers to see a new phenom, more sponsors, more youth and adults interested in the sport, more money and now Golf is at an all time high.

You now see a very impressive field of younger golfers on tour as well. Bowling has been on a down swing since losing its place on broadcast television. It then tried a slew of gimmicks(and is still trying them) to get more people to watch. The problem lies that none of them worked and in turn ran off bowlers who did watch. Bowling does not have a young phenom at this time to draw in more bowlers and more corporate sponsors. Bowling on tv doesn't appear to have increased the number of league bowlers. Bowling needs a solid TV format and people to make it work. Golf already has that.
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2010, 03:06:55 PM »
So basically the overall image of bowling needs to change.
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2010, 03:08:40 PM »
One thing I've wondered lately is why don't bowling centers offer memberships, similar to golf courses? I belong to a cours, costs me $1,300 a year. I get unlimited golf, and as a member, I am in the men's association, which runs a tournament every weekend. We just had our Club Championship this weekend, with the winner getting $200 in pro shop credits and $100 in cash. Other places were paid as well - I believe top 3 - no additional cost to enter, by the way.
I live in New England, and will only get to play about 7 months if we're lucky, but I'll get in 50 rounds this year - that comes to $26 per round - 4 hours of fun and time with some good friends. This does not count the times I just want to practice, and go up and play a few holes after dinner or before work during the week and drop 3-4 balls each time and just work on shots.
I also play in 2 leagues - yes there are leagues there every evening, except Sat & Sun - my greens fees are already paid as part of my membership, all I pay is a $100 up front fee for the league prize fund.
Now I also bowl 2 nights a week and I pay $17 and $21 for those, this covers lineage and prizes - if I do that for a 33 week season, that comes to $1,254 dollars for the season - and this doesn't include any practice! At $1.50 (league bowler discount) a game, if I want to practice 6 games a week for the season, that's another $297 on top of my league fees - my total spend now is $1,551 - golf was $1,500 including my league fees. The misconception is out there that golf is more expensive to play - I would say that is not necessarily true. Also, to one of the points above, the clubs will last several years, but you do need to buy balls, gloves, tees, etc. The equipment costs will probably come close to a wash ove rthe course of a few years.

I'm not sure what the answer is to increase the popularity of bowling and make it more of a mainstream sport in to attract sponsors so that TV coverage could be better - but I think a good start, is working to reverse the image that glssmn2001 talks about - when you think of a "bowling alley", you think of a smoke filled, alcohol flowing environment - this is not always accurate, at least in my area (smoking isn't even allowed in the centers in my state) but unfortunately, the perception still exists.

I for one, would love to see an owner step up, offer a membership program like a golf course, and really promote the sport, the PBA and try and reverse this image.
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2010, 05:04:10 PM »
I think the PBA needs bigger/better sponsors.

Why can't there be a tournament sponsored by Buick?  The winner gets a brand new car and cash prize?  Get Nike to make bowling shoes again and have them put the Swoosh on a tournament or 2.

There has to be more incentive for new bowlers to join the tour.

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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2010, 06:23:34 PM »
Bowling vs. golf.

I do both and enjoy both, but as to their relative profiles in the entertainment business:

1.  HD TV gives a great feeling of what the golf courses look like.  They are all different, but the stadium they play in for golf is much more compelling than that for bowling.  I can see contours in greens, big bunkers to cross, water hazards, out of bounds, elevation changes on the golf course so even the casual observer can see what a golfer contends with and how magnificent the setting is.  Cannot see the different lane patterns at all and every bowling venue looks like every other one.

2.  35,000 people can watch a golf tournament at any one time.  On the grounds of the course, big sponsors can set up hospitality tents and entertain customers and clients.  

3. Accenture, big banks, airlines sponsor golf which is considered an upscale sport.  Odor-eaters and motel 6 sponsors bowling.    

4.  As has been discussed at length elsewhere, the proprietors began portraying bowling as an activity like miniature golf, not as a sport requiring skill.  "Bring the whole family for fun".  Rock-a-bowl.  Company outings.  Birthday parties. Date night, disk jockeys. Whatever gets people in the door.

One very nice place in south Arlington is basically a bar that has bowling involved.  Even has an outdoor lane.  Big screens for music videos, etc.  An activity, not a sport.  

Nobody much watches miniature golf.
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2010, 06:35:26 PM »
golf f''n blows to me!! im really, who wants to hit a ball and then chase it..??!!  LOL almost like playn fetch with urself!! but to each his own....

i would KILL to see the these 2 switch plcae as far as the prize money and sponsers go....  ive watched old bowling tournys on youtube where the winner get 50k and 100k!!  2day ur lucky to get 10 or 20



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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2010, 09:52:46 AM »
From a spectator point of view golf kills bowling.

I've never seen a bowling center that I would pay to get into. Most look essentially the same. You generally have limited seating with bleachers being used for the majority of the seats, room for a couple thousand spectators maximum. The upside is you can get reasonably close to the action and it is climate controlled.

Most golf tournaments are held on private courses. Beautifully groomed and maintained. People will go just to view the venue, let alone watch the golf.
Tens of thousands can be held on the course without the course getting too crowded.

But the biggest thing to me is what you can see. With todays lanes conditions I can go to many leagues in town and watch several honor scores in a night. If I was a casual fan why would I pay to watch scores being shot that I can watch for free.

At a golf tournament I can see shots and scores that are seldom achieved by amatuers.

The numbers on the participants don't impress me much. We probably have a best 3 million bowlers in the country that bowl more than a handful of time each year. And probably 25 of the 45 million number bowl only once.

I would guess the number of avid golfers versus avid bowlers is about equal.

The PBA owners took over a virtually bankrupt entity. They have poured 35 million of their own money into the tour. You don't think they haven't tried to get bigger and better sponsors? I seem to remember them hiring a Nike PR/Advertising guy when they first started.

Bowling is declining for many reasons discussed in the past. Bowling centers are capital intensive ventures with declining revenues. Not many want to invest in such business.