Just want to thank 9orbetter for the Retro Red I got from him a few weeks ago. Great ball, of course since l I have primarily Rotogrip equipment already I expected it to be great. Left the layout the same and shot 772 (278, 257, 237)with it last night. Of course, if I hadn't of tugged the first one in the 10th the 1st game, oh well... Best $35 I've spent in a long time.