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Jeffrevs

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A different wrist brace question
« on: January 19, 2004, 08:39:55 PM »
Hey all,

Yesterday I had another lesson and while still working on a free and loose armswing we were working on my release/hand (which by the way was THE worst release known to man !)

Anyhow......had a great session yesterday and improved 'dramatically' my coach said in my release, staying behing the ball (I used to come around the side TERRIBLY!!!)   Well, it was mentioned that maybe I should try a wrist brace to induce/ help my hand position at release.....not to give me more revs, not to help support my wrist, but just simply help solidify that proper hand placement at release.

thoughts?

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Jeffrevs

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Re: A different wrist brace question
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2004, 12:00:57 PM »
Bones, thanks ! That would definately be my intention.........
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Re: A different wrist brace question
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2004, 12:31:48 PM »
oh yeah, get a crutch, ruin your game, learn to depend................

lol. just kidding. If your coach suggested using a brace to you then I don't see how you could go wrong with it. As long you learn what the brace is doing for you and try to learn to do it without it.
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Jeffrevs

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Re: A different wrist brace question
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2004, 12:34:55 PM »
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oh yeah, get a crutch, ruin your game, learn to depend................

lol. just kidding. If your coach suggested using a brace to you then I don't see how you could go wrong with it. As long you learn what the brace is doing for you and try to learn to do it without it.



I know you're kidding, but that's exactly what I don't want, and again, in response to what Bones and yourself said,.....the bold area above is my exact intention!
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Re: A different wrist brace question
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2004, 12:45:47 PM »
Well from the previous post about braces on the site. I think everybody knows my feelings about them. But again, if your coach suggested it and believes it can improve your game, I would give it a shot.

And don't worry about what anybody else thinks Jeff, the only opinion that counts when it comes to your bowling is your's and your coach.
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Jeffrevs

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Re: A different wrist brace question
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2004, 12:56:01 PM »
trust me, I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks, ...meaning, people making fun of me for wearing a brace, ..if that's what you're getting at.  I just wanted to see views of a brace helping with this certain function.  If it's suggested I'm going to try it, hell I have nothing to lose.
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Re: A different wrist brace question
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2004, 01:57:58 PM »
I don't like wearing a brace and have tried quite a few. the best I have found so far is the robby revs II.

it is hard to explain but it allows you to maintain some control of your wrist position and not any more pressure than necessary during your swing.

My biggest flaw without a brace, I tend to break my wrist a little in the backswing. this dose correct that. I never have a problem with my release. I find the braces to very one dimensional. of course on a house shot all you need is one dimension to score well.


My wrist can not take a long session without pain, for now, so I have to wear it.

I find wrist braces tend to change my swing making it more muscled than without. and like I said the revs II is the least of the evils IMO.
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Jeffrevs

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Re: A different wrist brace question
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2004, 02:55:30 PM »
trying,

I don't have a strength issue, ..that's not it.  And I do agree that it does not/would not stop my forearm rotation around the ball.....that's why I wondered when it was brought up.

The other thing I was thinking about was that some standard braces, (basic Robby's) have a piece of metal shaft in the palm that may help me keep my hand behind it a bit,....meaning, if I feel it, it'll help get rid of this TURNING muscle memory.

Trust me, I don't want this for a crutch....just wondering if it's even worth it.

At the end of my session, my coach said that I probably won't need one based on what I had accomplished yesterday,....so that was nice to hear !
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Re: A different wrist brace question
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2004, 07:44:03 PM »
I wouldn't look to a brace.  I use one because of arthritis.  There is definitely a learning curve to using the bulkier braces.  You will essentially be relearning how to release the ball.  At the beginning, your thumb and fingers will want to come out of the ball at the same time because it's hard for your wrist to relax with one on.  It's also easy to top the living heck out of a ball using a brace.  If your basic mechanics are solid and you don't have any physical problems, skip the brace.  Even if your release with the brace improved, once you took it off, you may not have gained anything.

Keep working with your coach and reading Ron Clifton's tips.
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Re: A different wrist brace question
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2004, 08:41:02 AM »
I use a brace about 50% of the time.  I don't have the wrist strength to stay behind my ball long enough to get a good dose of revs on it.  What I have learned from it is the feel of the release.  What I have also learned is the need to take it off.  In warm-up I usually throw half of my shots with the brace and half without.  I watch the ball reaction.  As the shot changes or the condition of my arm/wrist changes through a night.  I will put it on or take it off accordingly.

Example, I bowled a handicap tournament the other day on wood lanes (not my usual) in a house known for weird reactions.  I rolled the first four warmups with my brace and knew that on this day if I wanted to do anything, I had to take it off, flatten out my shot and play a straighter line.  I also brought two very different balls and knew the ER had to go back in the bag and the Hex was the ball for the day.  The good/bad new was I finished 3 pins under average -- 167.  Good news was each game I improved.  Good news (for me) was all the 185-200 bowlers I was paired with finished 14-18 pins under average.  Really bad news was that all the slow straight no hand nothin bowlers finished high.  Good/bad news was I had to play with my 170 current average instead of my 156 book average from last season.  I'm glad to be up so much but dang, if I was only up 10 pins I still could have used that 156.  Oh well, I'd rather be a better bowler.

Bottom line, the brace is a tool for me just like having a choice of balls.  It can't be your game but it can help your game if you know where, when and how to use it and when not to.

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Re: A different wrist brace question
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2004, 08:47:10 AM »
Thanks for all the responses....they're all appreciated.  I am making this final post then locking the subject...further discussion can be made by pm'ing me. THX

UPDATE: I will not be using a brace.  I've figured out part of my problem and have resolved it.  When I put my hand in the ball I've always had a large portion of the ball touching my hand, i.e.; laying in my palm so-to-speak.  I've just taken the ball and moved it slightly so it's not resting in my palm side but more in front and on the knuckle pads of my index and fore finger.
This keeps my hand more behind the ball to start without cranking my wrist over in the set-up phase, and allows a nice smooth release.

Still working on it.........but seems to be doing the trick. Oh,...plus, my track is even lower now...about 3/4 inch off my fingers .....

Thanks again...
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