I'd have too agree with the savage flip... i got one 2nd hand, the pin is about 4.75 inches from my pap ( which is too long for me), but the ball still works. On lanes with heavy oil put it away, or in cases with carry down. I've recommended it to 3 bowlers already. 2 are strokers like me, one is a cranker. All love it. One has already shot his first 300. The cranker shot 266 right out of the gate. And several high games in the first 3 days alone (250+).
I'm an above ave rev, stroker speed. For me it has very good recovery, (as with all pearls, put it away when the oil is too much). And a strong forward roll after the break. I've ordered two more, one for an earlier roll layout, one for stocking. For me its up there with the tiger.
Sorry for the long post.
regards
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DARK BEER IT IS THEN!
Edited on 5/7/2004 2:17 AM