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stealth

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A guy shoots 665 and beats me
« on: October 17, 2008, 05:11:06 PM »
I was bowling a head to head match tonight and lost 665 to 664. My problem is I out bowled him. I was throwing the correct ball and layout for this particular pattern.He was throwing the wrong ball and the wrong layout.So what gives????? I was splitting boards and he was was spraying it all over the place using as many as 3 boards at his target and by about 2 at his break point. I never missed my target or break point and still lost. What burns me the most is he needed all three in the tenth and he missed his target by a half board on each of his first shots while missing his break point point by as much as 2 boards.This just is not fair. Just venting
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rockerbowler18

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Re: A guy shoots 665 and beats me
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2008, 01:13:10 AM »
No such thing as the "right ball, right layout" for any pattern.

The right ball and layout are the ones that work.

Just my two cents.

Other than that, I think we've all been there.
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Re: A guy shoots 665 and beats me
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2008, 01:28:26 AM »
Sorry, no offense, but it just sounds like sour grapes to me.  Shake his hand, congratulate him on the win, and come back and beat him next time, that's all.
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Re: A guy shoots 665 and beats me
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2008, 01:31:45 AM »
Is this sarcasm?  You're more accurate than 1/2 board at the arrows and 2 boards at the break point that you referenced for his 10th frame?  You never missed your target or break point for 30+ consecutive frames?  I understand losing to a sprayer, but I think you're stretching things a bit.  Like rockerbowler said, there is no perfect ball/drill/cover combination for all bowlers.
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bowlingnut07

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Re: A guy shoots 665 and beats me
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2008, 01:56:14 AM »
sometimes things happen
and for him the ball he had worked good.
shake his hand and call it a day
u will have your day
and best piece of advice i can give you IGNORE THE CROWNED PRINCE AT ALL COSTS
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Re: A guy shoots 665 and beats me
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2008, 02:24:49 AM »
i second what strider said, and if you can see he is missing that little from standing off the lane i wish i had ur vision
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Re: A guy shoots 665 and beats me
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2008, 03:43:59 AM »
I worry about people who claim to split boards every shot,as nobody and I mean NOBODY hits the exact spot shot after shot. Its about trying to be as accurate as possible and using whatever area you may have.

A lot of people I have known have claimed the same thing and then been shown to be as bad as stand left/throw right spray and pray merchants when they have had their game analyzed.
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AngloBowler

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Re: A guy shoots 665 and beats me
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2008, 04:39:50 AM »
If I hit my exact target at both arrows and breakpoint for every shot in a three game series I'm sure I'd have more than 665, so by your own logic you shouldn't have lost, I think you should have been able to manage at least a 750 with that accuracy if not more.
If you are as accurate as you say, this makes it your fault you lost, no matter what the other guy did or didn't do...
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rvmark

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Re: A guy shoots 665 and beats me
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2008, 04:57:16 AM »
Not sure whether to really believe this is a real complaint or just something to stir the pot and see what responses you get if that is the case then you have succeeded.

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Re: A guy shoots 665 and beats me
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2008, 05:35:13 AM »
quote:
Is this sarcasm?  You're more accurate than 1/2 board at the arrows and 2 boards at the break point that you referenced for his 10th frame?  You never missed your target or break point for 30+ consecutive frames?  I understand losing to a sprayer, but I think you're stretching things a bit.  Like rockerbowler said, there is no perfect ball/drill/cover combination for all bowlers.
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I have to agree with Strider here. I object to losing to people who carry strikes when they miss their target by 5 -10 boards and the breakpoint by as much and still carry strikes. Most pros wish they could come within 1/2 board of target and still strike.

One of things you look for in finding a target and breakpoint is area forgiveness. We're not robots we're human. Unless you're on a bad sport shot, if you don't have 2 - 3 boards of area forgiveness, you have not found the right target and breakpoint.

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LuckyLefty

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Re: A guy shoots 665 and beats me
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2008, 06:50:29 AM »
Sounds like a made up post to me....but if true.

As Richie Sposato says so accurately.  "There should be a reward for a powerful release".  And "The best bowlers are the best combination of accuracy AND power".

A powerful release allows one to play the top hat correctly feet in the oil and gives one a chance to create area thru the pattern combined with his powerful release.

A weaker release forces one to split boards....even on the easiest of patterns.

Now you understand why you lose these matches more often than not.

Time to develop a powerful release.

Here is a great book that explains the top hat...and how to master it....

Bowling Secrets of the Pros by Bill Horvath

I certainly have not come close to mastering the techniques but it boils down to having a stronger release and playing deeper in the top hat!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS unfortunately still a "board splitter" to strike also!
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KennyRambo

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Re: A guy shoots 665 and beats me
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2008, 07:56:56 AM »
So why didn't you shoot 900?
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sdbowler

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Re: A guy shoots 665 and beats me
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2008, 08:33:20 AM »
It almost seems to me like he is trying to copy the post about the winner shooting 923 or something like that.
However if this is a true post you have to remember one thing it is a game of luck once you release the ball. I have been beat by many of bowlers who I should have easily beat. The one thing I have taken away from that is it was their night. We all have nights that we just don't have the luck on our side or we are not throwing the ball right. If you are as accurate as you say you are then you need to figure out why you lost. I have to agree with other posters on here that nobody is that accurate. Many of pros don't miss less then half a board over 30 frames. I was watching the replay of the womens us open the other night. Even the ladies on the shows were not that accurate. Time to wisen up and get over it.
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Stan

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Re: A guy shoots 665 and beats me
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2008, 08:42:09 AM »
splitting boards ??  Plus you only shot 664 with the right ball and layout.

Wow, what is this world coming to, when a bowler of your caliber can't beat a 665.  NOT !  Shut up and learn how to bowl and lose like a man.
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Re: A guy shoots 665 and beats me
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2008, 08:43:26 AM »
So you say he used the wrong ball because he missed his mark and got to the pocket?? Maybe that was the right ball because it gave him the room to make mistakes as all humans do.  Im sorry but i think you used the wrong ball.  Bowling is all about give yoursrlf the best chance to win and he did just that.
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