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xrayjay

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A PROSHOP being open of all places...
« on: June 25, 2017, 12:53:37 AM »
A bowlmor/AMF house I bowl at which housed PSO likes of Wayne Webb and others after him have allowed another shop to come in after years of having none.

I heard changes are coming to this house called Landpark. But with the new Proshop, it doesn't convince me things will improve any time soon. AC doesn't work, leaking roof, pin setters break down, and same issues from the last couple of years hasn't improved. I'm hoping things improve....

But at least there is a Proshop for the local bowlers. Lucky bowlers is the name I believe.
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Re: A PROSHOP being open of all places...
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2017, 08:07:04 AM »
All they were doing not having a shop is saving some sucker the misery of losing money every month.  New pro shops in bad locations don't usually last very long.
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Re: A PROSHOP being open of all places...
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2017, 09:06:45 AM »
As much as I love the pro shop business, I couldn't see opening a new shop in today's market (also, I'm in Illinois) unless I was selling rock out the back door too.
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Re: A PROSHOP being open of all places...
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2017, 10:29:04 AM »
Quote from: Impending Doom on June 25, 2017, 09:06:45 AM
As much as I love the pro shop business, I couldn't see opening a new shop in today's market (also, I'm in Illinois) unless I was selling rock out the back door too.
i know a local staffer/pso that did do just that. He now has one of the nicest shops around. Last I heard, he stopped. But yeah, about the only way to make a profit in some markets.
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Re: A PROSHOP being open of all places...
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2017, 11:42:23 AM »
I remember when the last PSO left that house to buy a bowling alley in Henderson, NV, another local PSO had inquired about moving in. The house wanted rent more than a mortgage or something really high. I'm not 100%, but that's what I heard... then a year or so later they out a small game room where the shop once stood.
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Re: A PROSHOP being open of all places...
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2017, 11:44:38 AM »
Quote from: tkkshop on June 25, 2017, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: Impending Doom on June 25, 2017, 09:06:45 AM
As much as I love the pro shop business, I couldn't see opening a new shop in today's market (also, I'm in Illinois) unless I was selling rock out the back door too.
i know a local staffer/pso that did do just that. He now has one of the nicest shops around. Last I heard, he stopped. But yeah, about the only way to make a profit in some markets.

In real life, I'm an IT guy that has thought about opening a shop just so I could work my it business from the shop and write off part of the shop as an office. I would be one of the only pro shops I know of with a full server rack running in a room right next to my ball plug table lol.
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Re: A PROSHOP being open of all places...
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2017, 11:58:25 AM »
When you decide to do that call me and I'll send somebody over to knock some sense into you.   

1.  I'm just going to assume you make money doing the IT thing, and it has to pay better than a pro shop.  Why would you take time away from that to do something that pays less?
2.  If you want to make a hobby less enjoyable make it your job.
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Re: A PROSHOP being open of all places...
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2017, 01:11:06 PM »
Come on....That was funny !
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Re: A PROSHOP being open of all places...
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2017, 01:19:12 PM »
Quote from: itsallaboutme on June 25, 2017, 11:58:25 AM
When you decide to do that call me and I'll send somebody over to knock some sense into you.   

1.  I'm just going to assume you make money doing the IT thing, and it has to pay better than a pro shop.  Why would you take time away from that to do something that pays less?
2.  If you want to make a hobby less enjoyable make it your job.

Oh, I completely make more money in IT, but I love being in a pro shop. A normal IT job, when being worked remotely, can be anytime. My specialty is virtualization and data center management, so I could tax write-off part of the shop as my office, and still work in a shop. I know how thankless the pro shop industry is, but I'm used to that in IT. I'd basically work from home until lunch, go to the shop so I can have some peace and quiet, open around the end of my work day, and then enjoy what it is that I WANT to do.

I gave up the pro shop life over 10 years ago, and if I could feed my family doing it, I'd drop the IT job like a hot potato. My passion isn't in IT. My money is.
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Re: A PROSHOP being open of all places...
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2017, 05:37:15 PM »
There's an off site pro shop that does more than drill balls. They sell trophies and other things which I don't know of anymore - it's over 10 years since I visited that shop which had moved location too. But, these guys have been around for a while and lasted longer than most Pro shops around town.
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Re: A PROSHOP being open of all places...
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2017, 10:59:25 AM »
#truth.  It's fun until you realize to make any money you have to own the shop you run, has to be in a good location in a good market.  Then you realize you can't ever bowl anything because if there's bowling going on, the shop should probably be open.  Can't close the business just to go bowl a tournament, and if business is good, no reason you'd really want to or should. 

Quote from: itsallaboutme on June 25, 2017, 11:58:25 AM
When you decide to do that call me and I'll send somebody over to knock some sense into you.   

1.  I'm just going to assume you make money doing the IT thing, and it has to pay better than a pro shop.  Why would you take time away from that to do something that pays less?
2.  If you want to make a hobby less enjoyable make it your job.
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Re: A PROSHOP being open of all places...
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2017, 12:55:54 PM »
Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on June 26, 2017, 10:59:25 AM
#truth.  It's fun until you realize to make any money you have to own the shop you run, has to be in a good location in a good market.  Then you realize you can't ever bowl anything because if there's bowling going on, the shop should probably be open.  Can't close the business just to go bowl a tournament, and if business is good, no reason you'd really want to or should. 

Quote from: itsallaboutme on June 25, 2017, 11:58:25 AM
When you decide to do that call me and I'll send somebody over to knock some sense into you.   

1.  I'm just going to assume you make money doing the IT thing, and it has to pay better than a pro shop.  Why would you take time away from that to do something that pays less?
2.  If you want to make a hobby less enjoyable make it your job.

Oh, I know this. I've run several shops, so I know the struggle.
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Re: A PROSHOP being open of all places...
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2017, 01:40:45 PM »
The pro shop business will be good to get into in about 30 years when shopping in a store is the retro, cool thing to do. 
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Re: A PROSHOP being open of all places...
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2017, 01:54:42 PM »
Or once the old hats in the bowling industry that don't know how to run an actual good business figure it out or leave . .

Quote from: itsallaboutme on June 26, 2017, 01:40:45 PM
The pro shop business will be good to get into in about 30 years when shopping in a store is the retro, cool thing to do.
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Re: A PROSHOP being open of all places...
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2017, 06:25:25 PM »
Quote from: xrayjay on June 25, 2017, 11:42:23 AM
I remember when the last PSO left that house to buy a bowling alley in Henderson, NV, another local PSO had inquired about moving in. The house wanted rent more than a mortgage or something really high. I'm not 100%, but that's what I heard... then a year or so later they out a small game room where the shop once stood.

That happened a few years ago at Bowlmor/AMF Thruway Lanes when the longtime owner of the pro shop was forced out because they wanted an insane increase in rent.  She moved over to the nearby locally owned Broadway Sports Center only about 2 miles away and she continues to do great business.  As for Thruway Lanes- they shut down and they're now an indoor car showroom.
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