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Big Jake

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a question for you very good bowlers...
« on: May 01, 2008, 12:43:10 PM »
Hello Group,

 Ok, so I am hoping to get replies from you guys/gals that are carrying a solid avg. (meaning 215+) at multiple house's on an easy shot to a difficult shot.

 My question is what type of core do you prefer? a symmetric or asymmetric core?

 I saw the threads about what is your favorite asymmetric/symmetric ball so I  thought that it my make for a good topic for the people here at BR to read.
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Re: a question for you very good bowlers...
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2008, 11:10:22 PM »
For me, it's more about the core-coverstock match-up. Both have to be there: I've had balls I haven't liked, and a new ball -- with the same core, but with a different cover -- has made a world of difference. Vice versa, too. A good cover, of course, is more important anyways (as it dictates a higher percentage of ball reaction by a fair degree).

In general, however, I've matched up to higher differential asymmetrical cores and lower differential symmetrical cores. There have been some exceptions, but that seems to hold pretty true across the board. The few high differential symmetrical cored balls I've thrown were very touchy, with a ton of over-under. The high diff. asymmetrical cores seem more continuous than their symmetrical brethren; but I do like the smooth roll I get from low diff. symmetrical cores. In either case, I also prefer a lower RG value. I've scored really well with balls that "lope"...but I've never felt comfortable with how they come off the spot. It's really hit or miss with higher RG values, so I pretty much stick with stuff that revs easier.

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Re: a question for you very good bowlers...
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2008, 11:23:28 PM »
I couldn't tell you about any RG numbers and differentials in ANY ball that I own, and frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.  HE He!!  I use 2-3 basic layouts and vary the shell.  Asymmetrical seems to be easier to tweak the reaction to be more precise, but even that is only a minor consideration.

I kinda run back and forth between Storm and Brunswick.  Storm is more skid/flippy and Brunswick revs up early.  Throw in some from the other companies just for fun, that's the pro shop junkie in me.

I like solid reactive the best.  Pearls have their place.  Don't throw much particle any more, although Lanemaster has a couple that I really like.  Match up your surface prep to your game and the lane condition bowling on.  Make sure your balls fit good and fit the same from ball to ball.  I think these two factors are more important than any layout.  If you have to pry it off your hand then it will be hard to repeat shots.

Hope this helps ya....

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Re: a question for you very good bowlers...
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2008, 11:41:23 PM »
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what does this subject have to do with average? nothing, it's about knowledge and match-up. average has nothing to do with it


I didn't say what ball-core makes an average higher now did I??? its an easy question so if you don't feel like answering I will respect that but if not...then
don't come in here and give us your nonsense !
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Re: a question for you very good bowlers...
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2008, 01:12:24 PM »
There are too many variables involved just considering different bowlers in different houses on different patterns.

As some of the other posters have suggested, it is more a matter of finding the right mix of bowler, condition, and equipment; the so called "matching up".

Having said that, every bowler's natural game is going to be better served by one category of equipment or another.  Knowing what works for you and what doesn't can go a long way in saving you money in buying new equipment in the future.

I spent money on one of those "arsenal" evaluations some time ago (wish I could remember which one) and it was the best $20 I ever spent due to the amount of money I've saved staying away from equipment I probably wouldn't have liked.

For me, lower-Rg, mid-differential symmetrical cores seem to be the best bet.

Your mileage may vary.

Edited on 5/6/2008 1:39 PM

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Re: a question for you very good bowlers...
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2008, 01:27:18 PM »
I'm an inflated average lower rev house hack. In my case, janderson already said it:

 
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For me, lower-Rg, mid-differential symmetrical cores seem to be the best bet.


The answers you're going to get will vary depending on oil condition and type of bowler style. I can't score well on second shift THS conditions with skid/flip equipment, but there many 220+ average bowlers in my primary league that do. It would be nice if there was a single answer, but too many variables.
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Re: a question for you very good bowlers...
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2008, 01:44:24 PM »
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quote:
what does this subject have to do with average? nothing, it's about knowledge and match-up. average has nothing to do with it


I didn't say what ball-core makes an average higher now did I??? its an easy question so if you don't feel like answering I will respect that but if not...then
don't come in here and give us your nonsense !
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I don't think that is what the prince means.
I think what he is saying is that why should you have to avg 215 plus in order to give useful insite.

Ex  I avg 193, but I am a lot more knowlegable that most of the 215 hacks in my house that just stand left and throw right.

His delivery might have been a bit rough, but I understood his message. lol

But to answer your question, I like the light bulb, or symetrical low RG balls.
They tend to come off of my hand better, and allow for more control.
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Re: a question for you very good bowlers...
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2008, 02:33:35 PM »
I find both to have their place, but I personally have seen more success with asymmetric cores.  I find them to be quite continuous through the deck.  That's not to say my symmetrics are not continuous (my Pyro sure as heck is), but that's just a general consensus. I think I find this b/c most of my lower RG/higher differential stuff is asym, and my higher RG/lower differential stuff is sym.  I want to find a low RG, low differential asym.  Like an asym Neptune
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