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Re: A sense of humor and helping to find the cure for breast cancer.
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2013, 09:03:25 PM »
Went to a candle lite bowl 2 years ago... All of the T-shirts had that & "Don't let cancer steal 2nd base" amongst others...  I like it.

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Re: A sense of humor and helping to find the cure for breast cancer.
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2013, 11:41:42 PM »
My return to bowling 10 years ago, was to get my mind off the death of a person I loved dearly. She lost her battle with breast cancer at the very young age of 31. Sharon (my gf at the time) loved pink purple, this ball is perfect.
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Re: A sense of humor and helping to find the cure for breast cancer.
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2013, 07:45:36 AM »
I'm going to say something that's most likely to be very unpopular, but I've done rather extensive research and have discovered several truths about the "cure cancer" movement.  They've already found a cure for ALL cancer, but we will either never see it, or it will take a long time to get here.  The bigger the foundation, the more money simply goes to the operational costs.  You know that Susan G. Komen only passes on 10% of your money for research?  The rest pays their salaries.  Cancer is HUGE business, if the cure were to be made available, thousands of people lose jobs, and the healthcare industry loses billions a year.  So when you give money to cancer research, all it's doing is going from your pocket to someone else's.  Raising awareness to get yourself checked and catch it early is all fine and good, but it's just like fast food, if it went away, the healthcare industry would lose money.  People don't really need all these drugs that get pushed either, but doctors make money for prescribing them.  The cancer industry is the closest thing to a perfect scam that you can get.  Sorry to rain on the parade, but that's the truth. 
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Re: A sense of humor and helping to find the cure for breast cancer.
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2013, 09:09:48 AM »
Gizmo, I simply cannot disagree with you.  You are correct factually.

I have an aunt fighting the fight right now but just b/c of that it doesn't make what you stated untrue.  I haven't really donated to Susan G but I tend to offer up something small when asked by most any charity, just for the sake of contributing something.  What is done with the money in particular I donated is beyond my control but it was given in good faith.
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Re: A sense of humor and helping to find the cure for breast cancer.
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2013, 10:23:22 AM »
And that's part of what's so bad about it . . my wife just had a very close aunt die of cancer . . and the idea that the industry just sees the disease as an easy stream of revenue pisses me off.  They take advantage of people's good nature AND of sick and dying people at the same time.  Makes you feel like a bad person not to donate or to talk badly about charities, but that's exactly what they prey on.  Just like people use praise of the military to make themselves look good.  Most people could honestly care less about the military, but they just use it for good PR.  My brother in law and TONS of friends are either in the military or are veterans, my father in law specifically was shot out of two planes in Vietnam and seeing the toll it takes is very real, so that's something else that pisses me off.  Lol, nothing but piss and vinegar, but I just don't like seeing people get taken advantage of or used by other people simply for their own gain. 

Gizmo, I simply cannot disagree with you.  You are correct factually.

I have an aunt fighting the fight right now but just b/c of that it doesn't make what you stated untrue.  I haven't really donated to Susan G but I tend to offer up something small when asked by most any charity, just for the sake of contributing something.  What is done with the money in particular I donated is beyond my control but it was given in good faith.
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Re: A sense of humor and helping to find the cure for breast cancer.
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2013, 10:59:04 AM »
You know that Susan G. Komen only passes on 10% of your money for research?  The rest pays their salaries. 

Even though I dislike the Susan G. Komen group, this statement isn't completely true.  Yes, they do not give a lot of money for research.  But a very large percentage of their money goes to supporting those dealing with cancer and for treatment costs.  My dislike for SGK is because of their bullying of other groups trying to raise money for cancer and other diseases.  Heaven forbid you start a fundraising campaign and name it "Bowling for the Cure."  SGK will force you to change the name even if you have had the campaign going on for years.  Big money lawyers will fight you till you give up.

If you truly want to donate money for something like cancer, then I suggest you look locally for those groups who do things for the actual patients.  I have had family and friends fight cancer and I would rather give them a $100 bill then donate through a larger corporation.

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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2013, 11:38:18 AM »
and the idea that the industry just sees the disease as an easy stream of revenue pisses me off.  They take advantage of people's good nature AND of sick and dying people at the same time.  Makes you feel like a bad person not to donate or to talk badly about charities, but that's exactly what they prey on.  Just like people use praise of the military to make themselves look good.

W/regards to charities....I tend to be of the persuasion that as long as comments are factual, they CANNOT be offensive.  Those who say otherwise simply have a problem with themselves. 
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Re: A sense of humor and helping to find the cure for breast cancer.
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2013, 12:01:16 PM »
Other than the Susan G. Komen part, this just might be the most ridiculous and inaccurate thing I have read here.

Care to prove your BS statement showing all your research on the Cancer cure?
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Re: A sense of humor and helping to find the cure for breast cancer.
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2013, 12:29:12 PM »
I never said I did research on the cure, if you would read exactly what I said: "but I've done rather extensive research and have discovered several truths about the "cure cancer" movement" then maybe you could check yourself before making accusations.  However, here are a few links to articles about the cure:

http://nypost.com/2013/03/27/one-drug-to-rule-them-all-researchers-find-treatment-that-kills-every-kind-of-cancer-tumor/

http://healthland.time.com/2012/03/28/a-single-antibody-to-treat-multiple-cancers/

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Re: A sense of humor and helping to find the cure for breast cancer.
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2013, 12:31:47 PM »
And does it say anywhere that OTB is donating anything from the sales of these balls?  Just says show your support . . so lets put a pink ribbon on a ball and a clever little saying that's only acceptable when talking about cancer so we can make a lot of money . 
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Re: A sense of humor and helping to find the cure for breast cancer.
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2013, 12:44:36 PM »
These stories about a "potential" cure have been coming out for years(note both of these articles mention research on mice, not humans). But there still isn't a cure for "Cancer". Cancer is like the Common Cold in that there are many different ways it can manifest itself and we have yet to actually determine without a doubt what triggers it's start.

But this is off the topic, hopefully some of the proceeds of the ball will be used to further cancer research. I with you on the Komen group though, way too much money is wasted on salaries and marketing.

I never said I did research on the cure, if you would read exactly what I said: "but I've done rather extensive research and have discovered several truths about the "cure cancer" movement" then maybe you could check yourself before making accusations.  However, here are a few links to articles about the cure:

http://nypost.com/2013/03/27/one-drug-to-rule-them-all-researchers-find-treatment-that-kills-every-kind-of-cancer-tumor/

http://healthland.time.com/2012/03/28/a-single-antibody-to-treat-multiple-cancers/


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Re: A sense of humor and helping to find the cure for breast cancer.
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2013, 12:54:37 PM »
Yes, but whether it's actually a viable cure or not is irrelevant to the topic.  I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be, but the fact of the matter is that people exploit the disease to make money, and as long as it's making them money, any cure that IS developed or has any potential will be attacked or delayed.  I agree that cancer is like a cold, but the difference is that your body can fight off a cold, but not cancer.  I don't see anyway to prevent either, but if a cure or successful treatment can be developed, that's the point.  However, people don't give millions a year and hospitals don't make billions off the common cold . .

These stories about a "potential" cure have been coming out for years(note both of these articles mention research on mice, not humans). But there still isn't a cure for "Cancer". Cancer is like the Common Cold in that there are many different ways it can manifest itself and we have yet to actually determine without a doubt what triggers it's start.

But this is off the topic, hopefully some of the proceeds of the ball will be used to further cancer research. I with you on the Komen group though, way too much money is wasted on salaries and marketing.

I never said I did research on the cure, if you would read exactly what I said: "but I've done rather extensive research and have discovered several truths about the "cure cancer" movement" then maybe you could check yourself before making accusations.  However, here are a few links to articles about the cure:

http://nypost.com/2013/03/27/one-drug-to-rule-them-all-researchers-find-treatment-that-kills-every-kind-of-cancer-tumor/

http://healthland.time.com/2012/03/28/a-single-antibody-to-treat-multiple-cancers/


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