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Pozz

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Approved cleaners during competition
« on: December 27, 2010, 12:41:25 AM »
Can somone tell me where I can find this list?  So during a tourney after every few shots I can spray these approved cleaners on a towel to clean off the oil?  I always assumed that was illegal.  Thanks for all info.

 

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Re: Approved cleaners during competition
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2010, 03:25:07 PM »
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You know the rule, it's only illegal if you get caught!


Just put you illegal cleaner in a legal cleaner's container. What are they going to do? Have someone to test what it is? As long as you have the approve for anytime on the bottle you are good to go.
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Re: Approved cleaners during competition
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2010, 03:33:36 PM »
Very true, and a couple of drops of yellow dye and it will be similar in color to Storms Reacta Clean.

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You know the rule, it's only illegal if you get caught!


Just put you illegal cleaner in a legal cleaner's container. What are they going to do? Have someone to test what it is? As long as you have the approve for anytime on the bottle you are good to go.

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Re: Approved cleaners during competition
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2010, 03:38:01 PM »
J&J Scrubbing Bubbles... very interesting. Anyone here use that?
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Re: Approved cleaners during competition
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2010, 05:47:52 AM »
Nice, put an illegal cleaner in a legal bottle. Guess we need to add a rule for no cleaners in all our league and tournament rules now. There are plenty of legal cleaners that work fine to get off marks and freshen the ball a little without cheating. Just use something legal. Most legal cleaners are clear liquid and most are more like water in consistency.

I was given a bottle of Zapp-It recently and it works really well. The Turbo ball wipes clean well too and carry in your bag for that quick clean up. Just be sure to get the bag sealed or they dry out.

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Re: Approved cleaners during competition
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2010, 12:59:39 PM »
Tex, I was joking. "" at end.

But let's face it, this whole approved/not approved (approved/not approved during competition) cleaner thing from USBC is a joke. There have been plenty of arguments with this subject in leagues. I am not sure what the USBC is trying stop with someone cleaning a ball.

The part I don't like are the list of cleaners approved for cleaning ball, but you can't use that cleaner during competition.

Could someone explain this reasoning?

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When you have a ball come back with all kinds of gunk on it. Your cleaner that is approved to use, but not during competition, is the best cleaner to get the junk off the ball. You use very little cleaner, and its done rather quickly.

NO!!! That's too easy!!! So based on the rules, I have to use a cleaner approved for during competition. Usually its not powerful enough to anything. I end up using more cleaner and taking longer to clean the ball (across multiple frames).

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Re: Approved cleaners during competition
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2010, 01:12:55 PM »
You must not be seeing the belt marks we get at Dublin bowl. Even Lane Masters cleaner takes a lot of scrubbing to take them off. Clean and Dull will eventually soften them enough to remove, but you have to let it sit on the ball for a while.

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Nice, put an illegal cleaner in a legal bottle. Guess we need to add a rule for no cleaners in all our league and tournament rules now. There are plenty of legal cleaners that work fine to get off marks and freshen the ball a little without cheating. Just use something legal. Most legal cleaners are clear liquid and most are more like water in consistency.

I was given a bottle of Zapp-It recently and it works really well. The Turbo ball wipes clean well too and carry in your bag for that quick clean up. Just be sure to get the bag sealed or they dry out.

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Re: Approved cleaners during competition
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2010, 09:59:24 PM »
I know that the during competion or not has to do with the cleaner altering the ball surface. If the cleaner contains abrasives it can not be used during competition. That used to be really easy to tell. Clear liquids were good and one that are polish type weren't. Then there were liquids like Acetone and Denatured Alcohol that are illegal to use at any time since they soften the cover. Someone can chime in,but I think this whole this cleaner is OK and this one is not started in the "soaker" era. Guys would dunk their plastic ball in a bucket of Acetone and take the cover down so soft you could dent it with your finger nail. Same time as the cleaners would probably be when they did hardness rules or around that time. Columbia had the orange dot that would get ring on the bottom from the ball cup in your bag. Would make it easier if the rule was just can't clean at all during competion, which is what USBC does at the Nationals. Considering the marks we get at times in league that would suck big time though.