Author Topic: Accidently soaked my ball, average going down! are they related? (Read 3498 times)

splitcity · « **on:** February 10, 2009, 12:04:07 AM »

hey guys, i am a league bowler who after 66 games was averaging 215. i use a brunswick fury, the ball is about a year old has been great for me. HOWEVER, i got into a ritual of soaking my ball in hot water with dawn dish soap every other week for about 15 min. i mistakenly forgot about it the last time i did it a month ago and it sat in hot water for nearly 5 hours. since then i have shot 580, 610, 603, and 591. although the scores havent dropped too low i was coming off 770, 740, and 720 the 3 weeks before. it just seems like the ball is dead and i am constanlty hanging 10's and 7's. it also doesnt crush the pocket like it was. i have given it 4 weeks now and i am starting to think it was something to do with the long bath i mistakenly gave it! any thoughts? thanks!

jbuzz31 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:08:38 AM »

did you do anything to the surface or just let it soak? once every other week seems pretty often for me. i would do it every other month max. as long as you clean your equipment regularly with a good cleaner, soaking a ball that often isnt necessary.
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splitcity · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:09:54 AM »

it became a ritual for me. i would soak it in very hot water with dawn and then wipe it down with a rag.

jbuzz31 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:12:27 AM »

the lane conditions may also have changed. corner pins mean your usually coming in a pinch high or a pinch late. have you tried another ball?
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Jesse James · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:15:00 AM »

Might just need to take it to a spinner and refresh your cover just a little bit.

Hit it with an abralon pad and then repolish it just a bit, to give it some new surface, that you can work with.
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« **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:17:04 AM »

I don't think you hurt it. It's just that the hot water method, although better than nothing, gets a very limited amount of oil out of the ball. Find a shop with a Revivor or Rejuvenator. Eventually the covers become saturated and need the job done right.

The hot water and bucket method is like wetting the bed. It brings temporary relief, but sooner or later you've got to get up and change the sheets!

Our Revivor routinely extracts oil out of coverstocks for 4 to 6 hours, sometimes longer! There is no person who is going to keep draining and filling a bucket with water hot enough to do the job for 4 to 6 hours straight...

We've done lots and lots of Fury solids over the past year and a half. The reaction will return.

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splitcity · « **Reply #6 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:20:55 AM »

thanks guys!

tuckingfenpin · « **Reply #7 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:36:51 AM »

Fury solids are known to be oil vacuums, and have a tendency to lose their reaction over a period of time, even with proper maintenance (much the same as the Black Widows..)

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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:48:59 AM »

Second the surface refreshment idea, and you might give the ball a couple of games time - I found that when I de-oil balls thoroughly (multiple bucket baths, plus deep cleaning with LM Ball Cleaner) they need some time to build up a proper reaction again. Not sure what it is, I guess the coverstock simply has to absorb a minimum of lane conditioner to work properly? I would not worry too much, though.
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Steven · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2009, 09:16:32 AM »

It's a coincidence. Simply soaking a ball without a cover adjustment isn't going to result in 10's and 7's.

It's not unusual to have several good weeks and then, for whatever reason, struggle for a bit.

I would however take some of the revivor recommendations to heart. A truly saturated ball can take hours for continuous oil extraction in a controlled temperature Revivor type oven. Hot water baths are impractical for accomplishing an equivalent job.

mainzer · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2009, 04:03:58 PM »

The dawn dish soap probably killed it actually. Dawn dish soap is fat based which means the hot water opened up the pores and the soap went in their

and filled the Pores and took reaction away.

Try using ONLY hot water, that will open the pores and let the Soap out and thus give reaction back.
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tc300 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 11, 2009, 04:37:27 AM »

its prolly filled with bubbles from the dawn dish soap.... LOLOLOLOL

tc300 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 11, 2009, 04:40:56 AM »

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Fury solids are known to be oil vacuums, and have a tendency to lose their reaction over a period of time, even with proper maintenance (much the same as the Black Widows..)
that is so very very true bout the widow solid... so not worth the money!!
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mmcfarland300 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 11, 2009, 08:58:13 AM »

If he has a routine of giving a hot water bath every other week I can't imagine this being an issue of it being too oil logged. What the issue could be that the cooler water did absorb back the soap and oil previously released when the water was hot. I would suggest sanding the ball down to 500 abralon soak with dawn and hot water for 20 minutes dump and then repeat with just hot water. Then surface up the ball back to what you are looking for. It will need to absorb some oil to get back in the groove so get a practice session in.

azus · « **Reply #14 on:** February 11, 2009, 09:09:14 AM »

Whats "very hot water"? A bowling ball should not be exposed to temperatures higher than 55C, 131F.
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