Author Topic: Accuracy (Read 4210 times)

Gazoo · « **on:** October 17, 2005, 11:57:15 PM »

Saw the following statement:
The Computer Aided Tracking System developed by the USBC Equipment Specifications and Lane Certification department has documented proof that most bowlers miss the target they thought they hit by one, two or three boards on virtually every shot. Does this mean in the end we are all area bowlers. And what really defines accuracy? The bowler who comes closest to their mark most often, or the bowler who hits the same area of the lane most often?

Goof1073 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 18, 2005, 08:07:36 AM »

Doesn't that get into the whole eye dominance theory I've read about. It had to do with the bowler perceives the mark he is hitting to be versus what it actually is. It also gave instances of the difference between a right eye dominant and a left eye dominant bowler.
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Gazoo · « **Reply #2 on:** October 18, 2005, 08:32:01 AM »

Goof,

As a right handed bowler who is left eye dominate, I agree with you. The question I have is are we really as accurate as we think we are?

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #3 on:** October 18, 2005, 08:45:02 AM »

A while back a jerk at our house told me I was inaccurate.

I replied BS. He put a penny down on 10 and I tried to hit it.
Jerk that he was/is he laughed every time I missed I finally said where am I hitting. He replied almost 12! Hamammahahahahahahhaha!

Jerk.

SO I aimed for 8 1/2 and pinged the penny off the lane 21 times!

Guess what...I didn't strike anywhere near 21 times. Accuracy in the heads is overrated as a factor in bowling success.

More important is projection angle, consistent revs and speed and STRIKING POWER!

REgards,

LUckylefty
PS a top regional champ friend of mine too great pride in his accuracy.
All the time he could ping pennies and in league would do anything he could to hit his mark. Loose his balance, break his wrist and then complain all day about others carrying. He was down in average to about 216(super sparemaker).

I asked him if he would be open to an idea....YES. I explained that golfers didn't care about where the ball was in the air at 50 yards...only at the final destination. If he could accept a two to three board area but instead focus on his form at theline. Posting position, armswing, closeness to ankle and put his focus on that and forget all the wrist breaking etc. to splice his mark.

Three years ago he did this. Since then he has posted several averages in the high 230s and one or two in the low 24X. He recently was in the top 20 in squad qualifying in the US open also so he is no sprayer!

azus · « **Reply #4 on:** October 18, 2005, 08:52:11 AM »

Accuracy is to put the ball on the same mark/spot every throw.
If you don't see that you miss your with 1 or 2 board - Do you really miss?
Yesterday we had a accuracy test at the alley. Our coach taped a 4 board wide paper strip on the lane, and we should hit it. Then he made it half as big and we should hit it again.

azus · « **Reply #5 on:** October 18, 2005, 08:54:31 AM »

Lucky, you can hit your mark 100 times in a row, but if your foot isint on the same spot every time then it doesent matter how many times you hit the mark.

Gazoo · « **Reply #6 on:** October 18, 2005, 09:05:06 AM »

LL,

It was not my intention to infer anything about spraying the lanes. 1-3 boards is pretty small compared to someone missing 5-10 boards every other shot! With the help of someone on this site. I was off 4 boards from where I thought I was because the left eye dominate thing. This really was effecting my single pin conversion rate and not so much my striking.

dogman666 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 18, 2005, 09:06:53 AM »

Gazoo,

You are not left eye dominant! You are Budweiser challenged!

Gazoo · « **Reply #8 on:** October 18, 2005, 09:16:01 AM »

You are correct sir!

charlest · « **Reply #9 on:** October 18, 2005, 09:18:42 AM »

I don't think this relates to eye-dominance. If that were true, the miss would consistently be that 2/3/4 boards to the left/right of the designated target every time. I do not believe that is what Gazoo was referencing. I think he is just talking about simple accuracy.

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Gazoo · « **Reply #10 on:** October 18, 2005, 09:36:14 AM »

Charlest,

That is my question. If my target is 10, one shot I hit 13, the next shot I hit 8, the next shot I hit 11, the next I hit 7, yet I think I am hitting 10 every time. How accurate am I?

DukeHarding · « **Reply #11 on:** October 18, 2005, 09:59:29 AM »

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Lucky, you can hit your mark 100 times in a row, but if your foot isint on the same spot every time then it doesent matter how many times you hit the mark.

azus,
Bingo! If you're not at the same position at the foul line,
with the same shoulder alignment, with the same hand position, ball release and turn, it doesn't matter what you hit (except on a wall), as the ball will project down the lane at different angles.

Then start thinking about approach foot speed, discrepancies in the amount of knee bend from game to game...This is a hard game/sport!

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baccala8872 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 18, 2005, 10:07:07 AM »

What's more, if you hit your mark every time for 36 balls a night, and it winds up being the incorrect mark you needed to carry consistently, then you've proven that you are pig-headed and need to change your mark!!!!

I'd rather be a little bit of a sprayer who focuses more on angle and making the right adjustments in my swing when I feel (in my 3rd step) that I am a little bit off.
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STBCrushEm · « **Reply #13 on:** October 18, 2005, 10:09:39 AM »

I am blind in my left eye and I have done hit the tape thing on the lane. I hit it 98% of the time. I found if you open up your target area you open up the lane more. If you try to hit the same board every time you might hit it but it does not mean you will strike. You can hit the same board every time but you could have deferent angels over it. You would have to hit a target and a brake point every time.

charlest · « **Reply #14 on:** October 18, 2005, 10:12:10 AM »

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Charlest,

That is my question. If my target is 10, one shot I hit 13, the next shot I hit 8, the next shot I hit 11, the next I hit 7, yet I think I am hitting 10 every time. How accurate am I?

If someone else verifies that you are off by a different amount every time and you see it as having hit your target every time, I think common sense says you're not observing what happens quite correctly. Eye dominance means you see the same number of boards difference in the same direction EVERY TIME. WHat you're describing sounds more like eye "wandering" or not concentrating or possibly some potential vision problem.

You should find some articles about targeting (I don't have any off hand.) but basically we're almost all off by a little bit AND the amount you are off WILL VARY BY THE ANGLE YOU PLAY. Insides lines (4th arrow, for instance) will have you off by more than down and in lines (down the 5 board or 10 board).

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Edited on 10/18/2005 10:05 AM

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