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Jay

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Strong Balls
« on: December 02, 2008, 05:29:07 PM »
With the bowling ball market being filled with so much high end and stronger equipment in today's game, I think it's gone a bit overboard, but I'm starting to think there's actually good reason for it.  I'm thinking that stronger balls(medium to heavy oil is what I'm talking about) are very helpful on today's conditions.  Now I know you're probably thinking, "well duh."  But what I really mean is that(and this is my opinion based on my experience) is the stronger equipment allows us more area on fresh conditions.

For example, my strongest ball is the Columbia Rival.  That is a medium oil ball by today's standards.  There's not too many conditions I've bowled on that I would want a stronger ball, because it hooks enough.  However, on some of those conditions, I've recently felt that a stronger(medium/heavy oil) ball could have helped me in opening up the lane just a bit more or just giving me a better look in general.  The Shark on Pro Anvilane is a good example of this.  I could throw the ball up 5 and it would hit the face, which meant I had to swing the ball a bit(13 out to 11 or something like that) in order to find the pocket.  When I did, I had no room for error, and now I feel like if I had a medium/heavy oil ball(say, a Momentum Swing) I could have possibly moved everything right, or even played deeper and created a little area.

So the reason I created this thread was to get opinions on whether this is agreed or disagreed upon.  One thing I will say is I'm not implying the strongest ball you have isn't going to be optimal, just that just because the ball hooks a decent amount doesn't mean it will allow you to score.

 

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Re: Strong Balls
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2008, 01:43:32 AM »
That's why when you are putting together an arsenal that you have a benchmark ball (sounds like your Rival) and have supporting bowling balls to fill the void around said benchmark ball.

Olier__Med. olier___benchmark___med. light___>light

When your Rival isn't cuttin' it you can have the option of bumping it up to a stronger ball/shell.

That way you have options and dont get stuck (ball wise)

And yes I agree with your thread.

Edited on 12/3/2008 3:29 AM

Jay

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Re: Strong Balls
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2008, 02:21:33 AM »
That's similar to what I was thinking.  I would consider my Rival a Benchmark ball and a medium oiler in one for me.  That is, once I get stronger stuff.  The reason I don't have stronger stuff is I rarely need it, but I'll be hoping to get a Heavy oiler soon for when I do.  My optimal arsenal would have something between the heavy oiler and my Rival, like a T-Road Solid or something.

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Re: Strong Balls
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2008, 02:27:18 AM »
I am with you. I am a rather low speed/med revs stroker, and any new high end ball in the past 2 years that I tried has not pleased me. I fare much better with older equipment - I think the modern porous coverstocks are way too responsive for my needs.

Recent attempt is a Smash Zone as a medium condition ball. Drilled pin under the fingers, it IS an arcing piece, very good length, but I have a hard time controlling its back end reaction, whatever I tried with the surface so far. It is very responsive to dry boards - too much for my liking. The ball is not a dudd, but I fear I will sell it soon and look for something more "old school"... I have no confidence in it. Hit or miss, and not suitable for league or tournaments for me, and for the role it is supposed to play in my arsenal.

I find myself looking ever more at mid range pieces and old stuff on ebay, because these balls seem to fit my game much better?
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Re: Strong Balls
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2008, 05:41:19 AM »
I am with you on that. The mass bias hype has also changed a lot in the high end sector. You have a hard time finding a high end piece with a simple symmetrical core.

I laughed at the Infernos bceause of their simple design, but today these would be a true distinction in the market. The Smash and Maxxx Zone might be a move into this direction. IMHO, coupling both a responsive coverstock PLUS a strong MB core creates a VERY potent ball, but it comes at a price... control, versatility, forgiveness. For pro bowlers who know what they want and need, these provide an extra notch in performance. But for Joe Bowler, I came to think that it is just too much.

Therefore, I highly appreciate new introductions like Visionary's New Breeds, which appear like state of the art coverstocks with "simple" cores.
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Re: Strong Balls
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2008, 12:39:52 PM »
Yeah, 5" pins are getting more and more popular.  Not with me because I want my stuff to hook, and some stuff with that long of a pin would make the ball lope a bit much.  But even for higher rev guys I can see using stronger pin placements hen they want to drill a ball strong so it can be useable on heavier conditions than what it may be made for(i.e. Rapid Fire on Medium/Heavy or Heavy oil).  Although, there is some stuff on the market(very few though), that's just too strong to drill anything less than 5" and they still need heavy oil.  From the sounds of it, the Immortal Solid is one of them, along with the AMB Centaur Particle.  But I definitely agree that simple cores are the way to go.  The core I seem to have most success with is the lightbulb(Whirl Wind, Avalanche Solid), and they don't put that in balls with strong covers.  However, I don't think entry angle would be at the level it is today without the cores that are being made.  Asymmetric balls generally have a tendency to be more angular.

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Re: Strong Balls
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2008, 12:57:59 PM »
dimension probably the best storm ball out now besides the virtual.
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Re: Strong Balls
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2008, 01:02:12 PM »
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Yeah, 5" pins are getting more and more popular.  Not with me because I want my stuff to hook, and some stuff with that long of a pin would make the ball lope a bit much.
I am a lower rev guy, and I use a lot of 5" pin placements.  I like to use a little weaker drill on strong equipment to conserve energy down lane, then use surface to keep it from going too long.  For me, this creates much better entry angles and better carry than using strongly drilled equipment with less surface.